The Lions' Pride

Gottlieb has always been a straight shooter.

Just listening to Fox Sports Radio in Denver, still weird how I get all this PAC 12 talk instead of Big 12, and the PAC 12 guys stated Lame Kitten was in Connecticut selling how they would use Si at SC. They also stated Si would be crazy to go because he probably would not be the feature back as has been said before on our boards.

Then Gotlieb is misinformed...Lane did call PSU and informed him they were going to recruit Silas...We don't have to yank a ship...we have one available, we will just take 17 that we have committed now for 2013 and Silas will be our 18th. We have a need for him, if he wants to come, we will welcome him with open arms, if he does or doesn't, we will be rooting for your team for years to come.

Where were all these talking heads when this was happenning too us for two years? I didn't hear a peep from Gotlieb and his chronies about the slimey coaches trying to recruit our players away...(Dooley being the worst..he offered everyone of our Juniors and Seniors, even if he didn't have a need for them...now that's sleazy)At least PSU has a time limit to when this will cease, we had to deal with it for 2 years, no breaks.

When are these so called journalist ever going to be held accountable for their misinformation. They just pull things out of their asses to see what sticks...what's really sad is that most of it does stick, because people are to lazy to seek the truth.

I am with you Penn State, I want you to get through this with flying colors, and then I hope you flip the NCAA the bird when you do.

Fight On!

Great post HOT! There is nothing sleazy about this.

So you have 1 ship left? Yet everyone is reporting you are full once your last RB recruit clears? So Lane was trying to find out from the NCAA if he could go over the limit of 75 you are currently under because why? Anything you can point me (and maybe ESPN) to that actually lists your scholarship roster?

don't care..

in other news, this Beckman guy is a complete moron.

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Although give Lane some credit. Its not like he has had to deal with this type of thing.....oh wait

The irony is rich that a Penn State fan would claim that someone didn't have the balls to pick up the telephone and call the proper authorities.

all kiffen has to do is notify the compliance or athletic dept. is it better if he calls o'brien directly? I'm sure, and that's how I'd do it.

Unfortunately this is Emmerts creation here.

I thought the kid they were still waiting on the clearing house was an RB, turns out he's a WR. From what I have read USC can't go over the limit this year and that is the issue; Hatcher is a 2013 recruit, so it wouldn't matter for this season. I'm trying to use your math and it isn't working. If Rogers makes makes 75 then Rogers + Silas makes 76. 76 isn't allowed by the NCAA so either you cut someone's scholarship or you cut someone's scholarship for 2012.

Rodgers counts against the 2012 limit which was 15, but we only took 12 for 2012 so we have 3 remaining spots for EE....Roger doesn't make 75, Rodger makes 73 (Hatcher would make 74 and we would have one more spot to fill)...the Register doesn't always get it right...and either does Gotlieb...

Vilifying Lane Kiffin is just the easiest thing to do for the lazy uninformed media and the masses, it amazes me how easy it is to deflect attention away from who really is the villain, Sandusky, those who turned a blind eye, and the NCAA who threw out the rule book and decided to sanction Penn State without any precedence....Yeah, vilify Lane, it's the easy thing to do, but it isn't the right thing to do....

Fight On..Penn State...Fight On!

Edit: I usually come out with my claws and fangs, when someone disses my guy...but I understand what you are going through right now...we know we lived it...we are still living it!

You keep referring to EEs, but your issue is you have to be at 75 for 2012, and Silas would count this year because of your current sanctions (or at least that is how it is being portrayed). Might want to get a note over to some of your fan sites as well (SC Register) since I have read on a few sites outside of ESPN and OC that you are already at 75 for this year if Rogers qualifies. I'm not sure who is reading it right at this point.

Financial Aid Limitations:
A school subject to scholarship limits due to an infractions case is allowed to accept transfers from Penn State but cannot exceed the scholarship limits specified in its infractions report. Athletically-related financial aid may not be canceled during the period of the award and these schools are not permitted the same exception allowed to schools not under Committee on Infractions sanctions.

The Exception (which USC reportedly would not be eligible for):
If a student-athlete transfers for the fall of 2012 to a school that has reached its scholarship limits, the school may exceed these numbers for the 2012-13 academic year, provided it reduces such limits proportionately in the 2013-14 academic year. For example, if one student-athlete transfers to a Division I school already at the legislated limits of 25 initial counters and 85 overall counters for 2012-13, the school will be limited to 24 initial counters and 84 overall counters in 2013-14.