The Lions' Pride

I can't speak to the accuracy of any of the stories in the article, and I was unaware of any published code of ethics, but assuming they exist, athletes should not be exempt from them. They should not be treated any differently than the rest of the student body. Based on her emails it seems like Joe thought differently, which would contradict the major tenet of his Grand Experiment.

Seems like Joe was pissed at the world. I have never heard of this way of handling discipline. The only thing we will hear about this iis she questioned his ethics and morals.

Coaches should set discipline in my opinion. Also it is a very interesting question whether the university should punish students for things done off campus. Also what is the typical punishment for a kid that makes prank phone calls, shoots arrows through a wall, is falsely accused of something or even gets in a fight. If kids that are members on intramural sports or clubs did those things are they told they can't partcioate in any faction for a length of time. I've heard of kids being on probation and so forth but not really forbidden to take part in activities for events not relating to said activities. If this is the case she has a point if it isn't then wasn't she trying to punish football players in a way that wasn't/isn't consistent with the rest of the students .

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This is any college football program that does this. Joe turned out to not be quite so different. The country we live in wants justice for anything being said not what people actually do.

Joe really should have quit after 2001. Pride got in the way and will ruin him.

The lady sounds like a total jerk to deal with.

This ends the Bradley talk for HC.

Guess it's time for all journalists who want to achieve notoriety to take a squat and dump on all things Penn State. Especially the school icon.

I think it's pretty clear that Triponey has an ax to grind and has been saving those e-mails just waiting for a chance to smear PSU -- if I was her boss now I'd get rid of her for pulling a stunt like that because I'd be concerned she would try to smear me next.

Plus Triponey conveniently leaves out the fact that she publicly demanded Joe be fired over remarks he made when a Florida St football player was falsely accused of rape the week before the 2006 Orange Bowl. Vicky Triponey is a raging uber-feminist on her own power-trip who believes anyone born with a penis is GUILTY and who constantly meddled in Joe's program and insisted she should be determing how Joe should discipline his players with regard to the football field and anyone who believes she'd have held Joe's players to the same standards and subjected them to the same discipline as the general student body is an absolute fool. She had one hell of an axe to grind and the WSJ could not possibly have found a less objective source. I had expected the WSJ to vet their sources a whole lot better than this until I recalled it's now run by Rupert Murdoch and is in no way the same WSJ I grew up with. It's now no differerent and no better than the News of the World.

The Connor thing is absurd. I'm not saying that this makes it right, but I highly doubt that a player of Connor's caliber would be suspended at a single other major program for something as small as some stupid prank calls. That example is just ludicrous. Not defending Connor's moronic actions, but let's get real here. No school is squeaky to the point where a Connor type player would get anything more than internal discipline.

Seeing as Anwar was acquitted, that example shouldn't be included either.

Not going to lie, this woman kind of sounds like a major b***h.

The WSJ interviewing the dude from the apartment and refusing to point out the utter lack of evidence to support those allegations told me all I needed to know about what the WSJ was aiming for here.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the big deal in anything contained in that article. Nothing new really came out of it, as we have all known for years that Joe preferred to keep things "in house" when it comes to players. It is not to say Joe never diciplined them, but he knew that football players getting in trouble unfairly putthose players all over ESPN, when that same trouble by an average student never batted an eyelash. I think Joe always tried to protect his players from public embarassment, but preferred to dicipline in his own way.

How are they going to "find" the e-mails? The only way a reporter is going to get his hands on them is if a PSU employee saves them and turns them over voluntarily, and only someone with an agenda. So who would do that? It's either a current employee or somebody who left on bad terms -- in other words, everything points to her.

Uh, nothing in that article on Paterno's part that I disagree with. Shrine still intact? Thanks.