The Lions' Pride

What happens if the fake guy they pick isnt a psu booster, but in reality is a disgruntled OSU fan.. Will the NCAA use the twitter musings of a fake OSU fan to lay down sanctions on PSU? I'm sure the big ten, and the university presidents, and the BCS committees will be cool with that..

No, they will track him down and see that he is an OSU fan trying to stir the pot. If they cannot track him down, there will certainly be other accounts that they can look at.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand here.

In all honesty we have this same stupid ass argument on here every two weeks...I think we've heard every single side to the argument. I don't think we need to re-hash it everytime some "new" article or piece of info comes out.

What I am saying is that they are going to use this rule to sanction schools that they want to "teach a lesson to". IE, PSU with the Sandusky thing.

I can't be any clearer than that.

I think we can all agree it's stupid to contact these kids on Twitter. But this is America, and it's full of stupid people.

But the NCAA can't track down anonymous Twitter users. So how are they going to sanction a school based off their posts? I don't care what kind of grudge they have against PSU. It's not going to happen.

And I'm saying, unless the NCAA has something else to sanction to go along with twitter violations, it wont get anything done.. Only way the NCAA can use it to violate a school is if its a verified wrong doing.. The NCAA wont just use any random dude on twitter who tells player A to come to PSU.. And as has been stated if they try that, they are opening up a can of worms they dont want to deal with..

Exactly, which is why no one should feel the need to do it. Its fun to follow these kids and I see no problem with that but I'll never get the need to feel like you need to say anything to them. I'd love to see the NCAA get a campaign out there in relation to this so everyone can at least hear the rules and their take on it. Do I think it does any harm? Not really.

And also the door is open to the whole "someone hacked my account" defense..

I'm sorry, what did I say that was arrogant? What rule did I agree to follow? Outline it for me please.. Let me make myself clear to you because either you arent understanding my point or you kno I'm right so you wont acknowledge it. I think it is an awful idea to tweet at recruits, and facebook message them, its an extremly slippery slope and you are better off not doing it. But my point is the NCAA will be unable to enforce a rule against it, because of lack of rescources and manpower, its impossible to police it.. Its up to the schools to do the policing and they wont put a huge effort into it for the same reasons the NCAA wont.. You are ignorrant if you believe otherwise. Case closed..

But again to your point if you get a ticket for running a red light and you were caught on camera they cant possibly prosecute because there is no way of proving you were the driver.. If you think the NCAA will selectively punish some schools just because they feel about it then I dont kno what to tell you.. I mean are you even reading what you are writing? I kno there is this big belief that the NCAA is this big conspiracy out to get certain programs and things, but when they have laid down sanctions the violations have always been pretty clear.. Give me an example of when the NCAA has dug around for dirt where there wasnt already significant dirt.. And dont say they are going to somehow use twitter posts to sanction PSU, your better than that.. And you havent told me about the rule we agreed to..

2) I didn't agree to it. What control does Penn State or the NCAA have over me?
4) Why not? They can go the board and say "look, here are tweets from fans from every major school in the country doing the exact same thing". You think the NCAA can just blatantly pick on one school because of some grudge? Is there some precedent for that I am not aware of?
5) An anonymous tweet is hardly a "crystal clear" booster.
6) You still actually believe they are going to track down twitter users somehow?

It is unreasonable to expect a university to somehow control the social media accounts of anyone who claims to be a fan of their school. Or to somehow monitor who contacts potential recruits via social media. Hell, apparently it was unreasonable to think Cam Newton knew his Dad was trying to sell him to the highest bidder. There is absolutely no chance this rule is applied to any school based of the posting of some random fan. Zero, nada, zilch. I'm sorry you feel the NCAA has some vendetta against us. But if they nail us for anything, it's not going to be tweeting.

The part about this that we are arguing, and for whatever reason you refuse to accept, is that if you arent a PSU booster you cant be punished for anything, and neither can the school.. I doubt every single person on twitter that hs tweeted at PSU recruits is a PSU booster.. I realize the definition of booster is very loose, but its also black and white, if you arent an alum and dont donate to the NLC and you are just a fan of the team, then you are not by definition a booster.. Nobody is suggesting that it is right to tweet at recruits, we are just saying there is nothing the NCAA can do to stop it.. But you think the big bad NCAA will use it as a means to uncover dirt on programs they dont like or want to punish, even tho they have never done that before.. I tell you what, since we are "miles apart" on this issue, why dont we just put it on the shelf until PSU gets hit with sanctions over some dude on twitter tweeting "come to penn state!" at a recruit..