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Folks, I think the QB controversy has ended today

  • Mcgloin got two first downs .....oh they were two penalties both for 15

    Psucorey

  • PSUTimm said...

    That has to be the case...right? Give Mcgloin his snaps in the 4th after Temple has been buried, which I DO expect to happen.

    Much as I would love Bolden playing through all upcoming games, Joe is too stubborn to change his mindset this easily.

    Sam Fritz

  • psufankc63 said...

    Post game radio show indicated 10 'Bama pts. off of turnovers. IIRC in the stands I counted 13, but I could be wrong. 4 turnovers killed us. And putting 11 in at QB was not working at all. But I do believe I see #1 growing up. I think he's the real deal. This year might not be our year, but if with stick with him, I'm excited about our chances in the last 3 "gauntlet" games of 2011. Fresno St. gave everything that Nebraska could handle today, and OSU had it's worst outing againist an in-state team since 1909!. I'm thinking I'm liking watching this team develop over the year. Bolden faced the toughest defense that he will face this year, outside of practice...TRUTH!

    Cheers!

    Kirk

    I agree whole-heartedly!

    Turnovers (fumbles and INT's) and dropped passes killed PSU yesterday. Not the coaches. Bolden's gotta be the #1, and remain there and grow with the team.

    Paterno coached teams always had that tendency to get better as the year went on. Let's keep our fingers crossed we stay "injury free" and our team improves.

    BrianS

  • That was "moxie" that Bolden showed during the touchdown drive. He's the man of the present and the man of the future.

    littlelionbill

  • littlelionbill said...

    That was "moxie" that Bolden showed during the touchdown drive. He's the man of the present and the man of the future.

    not if the coaches keep doing this two quarterback system crap I would understand if he would want to transfer, he won the job fair and sqaure,

    kdog

  • I think it's Bolden from now on....and I think the coaches know it too. Bolden played the vast majority of the second half snaps.

    Nittany Sluggo

  • Nittany Sluggo said...

    I think it's Bolden from now on....and I think the coaches know it too. Bolden played the vast majority of the second half snaps.

    Vast majority???? Really I think they split the series.

    Trock56

  • I don't think it matters who the QB is when the play-calling is as predictable as it is. Everybody in the stands sitting near me (including Alabama fans) knew what was coming 50%+ of the time.

    It will be the first time that I am saying it: I now agree that it is time for this coaching staff to go. O playcalling is hideous. No one can succeed with the crap games that Jay and Galen are calling. I am sick and tired of watching our Defense play sooooo soft. On 3rd and 3 and our DBs are playing 10 yards off the ball?? Maybe that used to work with the old bend but don't break philosophy but not anymore. Most offenses today are patient enough to continue to nickel and dime you down the field. Sick of seeing it.

    Sad part is the D played really well. DLine and LBs looked pretty good. I think Sukay needs to ride the pine though.

    Not sure how this looked for the 40+ recruits that were there. At least the stadium was white but an 8pm start would have been better.

    PennSt8lifer

  • I think that McGloin benefited last year from being a relative unknown. Alabama obviously had him scouted well and had their D-backs ready to jump every route on a 3 step drop knowing that the deep ball wasn't going to be much a factor. I'm a big MM fan, but teams will be better prepared for the fast release game he brings to the table, and I agree he should listed as 2, not 1B next week.

    Couple other thoughts in response to posts on this thread...
    The atmosphere seemed great on TV, but all those red shirts really stood out. Looked like a pink out.
    I didn't think the playcalling was that bad. Great defenses who are well prepared make playcalling look bad.

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  • PSUTimm said...

    That has to be the case...right?

    McGloin literally did nothing for us, he had 0 yards of total o

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  • thefonz said...

    I think that McGloin benefited last year from being a relative unknown. Alabama obviously had him scouted well and had their D-backs ready to jump every route on a 3 step drop knowing that the deep ball wasn't going to be much a factor. I'm a big MM fan, but teams will be better prepared for the fast release game he brings to the table, and I agree he should listed as 2, not 1B next week.

    Couple other thoughts in response to posts on this thread... The atmosphere seemed great on TV, but all those red shirts really stood out. Looked like a pink out. I didn't think the playcalling was that bad. Great defenses who are well prepared make playcalling look bad.

    I think you are getting confused with level of talent and scouting. McGloin arm strength sucks. It would be great in Div II or III but has not place at an upper level. It is not scouting mcgloin can not perform against players of bamas level. I am not saying bolden is an all american but his skills allow him to do somethings vs bama. IO know so many want to pretend that being a walkon and an elite 11 qb means nothing once they are on campus but reality is reality. Skill sets are what gets you rankings and how you use them is what makes you great. But no matter what walkon qb will never have the arm to play this caliber of a team. Lets hope we get fuller and jones learns that college is about books and maybe we can all be happy never to see mcgloin on the field again and instead all you walkon fans can go get his autograph before the game at the student bookstore pretending like he was something special

    This post was edited by Sean Fitz on 9/11/2011 at 9:22 PM

    Trock56

  • Trock56 said...

    I think you are getting confused with level of talent and scouting. Mcpick arm strength sucks. It would be great in Div II or III but has not place at an upper level. It is not scouting mcpick can not perform against players of bamas level. I am not saying bolden is an all american but his skills allow him to do somethings vs bama. IO know so many want to pretend that being a walkon and an elite 11 qb means nothing once they are on campus but reality is reality. Skill sets are what gets you rankings and how you use them is what makes you great. But no matter what walkon qb will never have the arm to play this caliber of a team. Lets hope we get fuller and jones learns that college is about books and maybe we can all be happy never to see mcpick on the field again and instead all you walkon fans can go get his autograph before the game at the student bookstore pretending like he was something special

    Trock you sound as if this is Mcgloins fault. Its not. He is doing everything he can to go out and be competetive. I for one think that is admirable. He is pushing Bolden forward. Calling him out is not going to help your point. This is a failure of the coaches. This isnt a hind sight thing either they knew what they had in Both QB's. MM did bring moxy but yesterday we saw this in Bolden. He is and always was this teams future. Calling out a kid who has a desire to go out and help his team is a loss.

    This post was edited by psu139 on 9/11/2011 at 10:06 PM

    psu139

  • psu139 said...

    Trock you sound as if this is Mcgloins fault. Its not. He is doing everything he can to go out and be competetive. I for one think that is admirable. He is pushing Bolden forward. Calling him out is not going to help your point. This is a failure of the coaches. This isnt a hind sight thing either they knew what they had in Both QB's. MM did bring moxy but yesterday we saw this in Bolden. He is and always was this teams future. Calling out a kid who has a desire to go out and help is team is a loss.

    I think he should not even be an option. It may not be a fault that he is on the field but at PSU level he should not even be an option. His attitude does not make me feel warm and fuzzy. "je will be a fine back up to me" Tells me he does not get it and thinks he is better than he is. So yes McGloin is fine as far as being a guy doing the best with his lack of skills. BUt he is a failure whne it comes to attitude. and this staff needs to tak emost of the blame for putting us in the situation we ar enow in. Joe has gone against everything he has taught and has put himself before what is best for the team and university.

    This post was edited by Sean Fitz on 9/11/2011 at 9:23 PM

    Trock56

  • I am not in practices or team meetings or the locker room to see what goes on elsewhere. What I did see was Bolden going through growing pains as a QB. Nothing I wouldn't expect from someone gaining game exerience. All i know is that hopefully another Morelli/MRob situation doesn't happen. Please Unify the team and Lead it !!! Someone needs to step up and say THIS IS MY TEAM !!! not just in words (McGloin) . I saw poise and perserverence out of a young man on the field and another young man watching it slip his fingers from the sildelines. Both clearly were seen. I am not staking one man against another. I just want the team to progress and I think we have that on O with what we saw in th Bama game. Now lead young man, lead.

    holstein51

  • ejb5212 said...

    McGloin literally did nothing for us, he had 0 yards of total o

    Yup, 1 of 10 passing for 0 yards. He lives off of quick, short passes and Bama stopped those like the plague. He had ZERO chance of threading the needle to complete a pass.

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  • I'd like to see Mcgloin start running the read option. And keeping the ball. A lot.

    That would settle the QB controversy.

    pennstatel0

  • pennstatel0 said...

    I'd like to see Mcgloin start running the read option. And keeping the ball. A lot.

    That would settle the QB controversy.

    So you're wishing injury upon someone?

    Gotcha

    FireJayPa

  • pdiehm said...

    I think a leader has been found on offense and his name is Rob Bolden.

    He hasn't quit, he's stuck his nose in there, and gotten in the face of his teammates.

    Agree with this. He did make some poor decisions, but I think he do some decent things as well.

    Rob looked alot better than McGloin.

    Hamilton Lion

  • psufankc63 said...

    Post game radio show indicated 10 'Bama pts. off of turnovers. IIRC in the stands I counted 13, but I could be wrong. 4 turnovers killed us. And putting 11 in at QB was not working at all. But I do believe I see #1 growing up. I think he's the real deal. This year might not be our year, but if with stick with him, I'm excited about our chances in the last 3 "gauntlet" games of 2011. Fresno St. gave everything that Nebraska could handle today, and OSU had it's worst outing againist an in-state team since 1909!. I'm thinking I'm liking watching this team develop over the year. Bolden faced the toughest defense that he will face this year, outside of practice...TRUTH!

    Cheers!

    Kirk

    I agree with everything you have put down EXCEPT one thing. I'm assuming you think Nebraska might not be as good because Fresno hung with them and put 29 points on the board in Lincoln. Fresno plays people tough on the road and secondly, Fresno has churned and developed some very good Quarterbacks. Its not like they have a second rate QB under center for Pat Hill. That hasn't happened in a while.

    Hamilton Lion

  • Hamilton Lion said...

    I agree with everything you have put down EXCEPT one thing. I'm assuming you think Nebraska might not be as good because Fresno hung with them and put 29 points on the board in Lincoln. Fresno plays people tough on the road and secondly, Fresno has churned and developed some very good Quarterbacks. Its not like they have a second rate QB under center for Pat Hill. That hasn't happened in a while.

    I use the Nebraska vs. Fresno St. as an example of a subpar performance by a Husker team that is supposed to win the B1G Championship. A team of this calibre shouldn't be allowing Fresno St. to hang around thru 4 qtrs with a legit shot at pulling off the upset on Cornhusker's home field to boot. Just sayin'shrug If Nebraska is soooo good, then Fresno St. is corn meal for the Huskers'. I'm not trying to disparage Fresno St., but I feel if the B1G preseason Champ! squeaks by them, then they are definitely beatable. As beatable as 'Bama was coming into Happy Valley if you ask me.

    Cheers!

    Kirk

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  • psufankc63 said...

    I use the Nebraska vs. Fresno St. as an example of a subpar performance by a Husker team that is supposed to win the B1G Championship. A team of this calibre shouldn't be allowing Fresno St. to hang around thru 4 qtrs with a legit shot at pulling off the upset on Cornhusker's home field to boot. Just sayin'shrug If Nebraska is soooo good, then Fresno St. is corn meal for the Huskers'. I'm not trying to disparage Fresno St., but I feel if the B1G preseason Champ! squeaks by them, then they are definitely beatable. As beatable as 'Bama was coming into Happy Valley if you ask me.

    Cheers!

    Kirk

    You don't know the history of Fresno at all then. You are treating them like New Mexico State with your comments. Look at their history. When they go on the road and play a big time opponent, they usually hang in there.

    I think Nebraska gets to the Big 10 title game without question. Do I think they are so good? No, but I think they are a possible top 10 team. So, Nebraska is as beatable as Alabama coming into Happy Valley? We saw what happened yesterday. Nebraska's defense will be lights out when it comes. Too much talent not to be.

    Hamilton Lion

  • Hamilton Lion said...

    You don't know the history of Fresno at all then. You are treating them like New Mexico State with your comments. Look at their history. When they go on the road and play a big time opponent, they usually hang in there.

    I think Nebraska gets to the Big 10 title game without question. Do I think they are so good? No, but I think they are a possible top 10 team. So, Nebraska is as beatable as Alabama coming into Happy Valley? We saw what happened yesterday. Nebraska's defense will be lights out when it comes. Too much talent not to be.

    OK. I give. Fresno St. is a perennial powerhouse top-25 team, especially, when playing on the road against the preseason B1G Champ favorite in Lincoln, NB? Um...what am I missing here dude? shrug

    Edited: to add Fresno St. is affiliated with the WAC conference. C'mon Hamilton Lion, you realy cannot be serious man!

    This post was edited by psufankc63 on 9/11/2011 at 10:37 PM

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  • Didn't watch the game... but much like ND vs USF (poor example cuz ND lost to UM i know) score isnt always everything.... If Nebraska didnt dominate them in the trenches then there is something for husker fans to worry about

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  • Hamilton Lion said...

    You don't know the history of Fresno at all then. You are treating them like New Mexico State with your comments. Look at their history. When they go on the road and play a big time opponent, they usually hang in there.

    I think Nebraska gets to the Big 10 title game without question. Do I think they are so good? No, but I think they are a possible top 10 team. So, Nebraska is as beatable as Alabama coming into Happy Valley? We saw what happened yesterday. Nebraska's defense will be lights out when it comes. Too much talent not to be.

    Fresno State hasn't won a WAC conference title since 1999. I think it's one program people think it's better than it really is. But overall this weekend I am very disappointed in the BIG 10. Pathetic showing. I was talking with some bama fans at the game and they started talking up the SEC and I couldn't even argue with them.

    blackshoes

  • psufankc63 said...

    OK. I give. Fresno St. is a perennial powerhouse top-25 team, especially, when playing on the road against the preseason B1G Champ favorite in Lincoln, NB? Um...what am I missing here dude? shrug

    Edited: to add Fresno St. is affiliated with the WAC conference. C'mon Hamilton Lion, you realy cannot be serious man!

    Spare the crap. You again are showing you know nothing about its history. I don't give a crap if its in the Southland. Boise State was affiliated with the WAC for years. They sure owned the respect of alot and deserve it. Nevada, which has upset some pretty decent teams over the last decade is in there. Just because they are int he WAC doesn't mean they suck.

    You are missing ALOT dude. Pat Hill has the "I will play anyone anywhere attitude" If you didn't know this, you are living under a rock.

    2004 - upset #13 Kansas State in Manhattan 45-21
    2005 - lost to #1 USC 50-42 in LA in a classic
    2008 - lost 47-45 in OT at #13 Texas A&M
    2009 - lost to Wisconsin 13-10
    lost at #13 Cincinnati 28-20

    I could put more down. Only a fool who doesn't know anything about Fresno State has your attitude. No one called them a top 25 team. Who is calling Nebraska the preseason BIG champ? Not me, I think they lose to Wisconsin in the title game. You are missing alot. Any TV personality on TV that knows college football would think you don't know Fresno at all; are living under a rock, or are a fool.

    Hamilton Lion