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  • I guess since the season is right around the corner and Fantasy football drafts have begun (I had my first one this past weekend and have two more this weekend), now would be a good time to create a thread to discuss not only the FFB league that was put together here on Lions247 but also other leagues you may be in.

    I'll start with a question to all of you first.

    The one league I'm presently in is a Keepers league. I got a trade proposal for Drew Brees. The offer was Mike Vick AND Mike Wallace. Should I take it? It's pretty damn tempting but I know Vick is injured and struggles to play and entire season. I have all the confidence in the world that Mike Wallace will get a deal done before the season but even if he's out a week or two, it's whatever.

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  • Shoot it down......Mike Wallace isn't worth it. - only good when he outruns the defender and get a pass that hits him perfectly in stride. AB & Sanders are both better receivers than Wallace.

    PSU2001

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  • Vick's specific injury isn't a problem (his finger will be fine). However, it's likely he'll miss 3+ games anyway for various other injuries. I'd probably keep Brees, especialy with how good Brown was at the end of last year for the Steelers.

    Another question. I'm also in a keeper league and have to pick one guy to keep. You get to keep the guy in the round you drafted him. I could have Arian in the 1st or Jimmy Graham in the 11th. If I go Graham, there's a decent shot I'll also end up with first pick in the draft as well (we haven't decided how we're picking who gets what draft position, but if it's random, assuming at least 3-4 keep their first rounders from last year I'd have a 1/6 or so shot at first pick). I'm leaning Arian just because he's just so good, but Jimmy in the 11th with a shot at Arian or a top non-kept QB sounds pretty enticing.

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  • Josh: I'd keep Brees. Guy's a machine. And this is coming from a guy who (relatively) likes both Vick and Wallace in fantasy football. Vick won me my league two years ago, and while Wallace is definitely a one-trick pony, he does that one trick pretty freaking well.

    shav: I've never played that kind of Keeper league, but I've read people's questions (like yours) before. I think I'm the type of person who would tend to go with lower-round guys. Neither position is necessarily in high demand - if you give one up, it wouldn't be that hard to grab another decent player.

    JMO, but I'd go with Graham. I guess it comes down to: if you give up Foster, what do you think the dropoff could be from him to your other first round pick? Compare that to giving up Graham and what's the dropoff from him to the guy you'd get in the 11th?

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  • psubills62 said...

    Josh: I'd keep Brees. Guy's a machine. And this is coming from a guy who (relatively) likes both Vick and Wallace in fantasy football. Vick won me my league two years ago, and while Wallace is definitely a one-trick pony, he does that one trick pretty freaking well.

    shav: I've never played that kind of Keeper league, but I've read people's questions (like yours) before. I think I'm the type of person who would tend to go with lower-round guys. Neither position is necessarily in high demand - if you give one up, it wouldn't be that hard to grab another decent player.

    JMO, but I'd go with Graham. I guess it comes down to: if you give up Foster, what do you think the dropoff could be from him to your other first round pick? Compare that to giving up Graham and what's the dropoff from him to the guy you'd get in the 11th?

    Agree here - keep J. Graham, he's a freak.

    PSU2001

  • PSU2001 said...

    Shoot it down......Mike Wallace isn't worth it. - only good when he outruns the defender and get a pass that hits him perfectly in stride. AB & Sanders are both better receivers than Wallace.

    Completely disagree about Wallace. He has proven to be more than a deep threat the past two years and has great hands. His first three years in the league Wallace has put up more yards and just as many touchdowns (24) as Larry Fitzgerald. Fantasy is all about stats and production. Wallace is one of the best at producing.

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  • shavisimo2 said...

    Vick's specific injury isn't a problem (his finger will be fine). However, it's likely he'll miss 3+ games anyway for various other injuries. I'd probably keep Brees, especialy with how good Brown was at the end of last year for the Steelers.

    Another question. I'm also in a keeper league and have to pick one guy to keep. You get to keep the guy in the round you drafted him. I could have Arian in the 1st or Jimmy Graham in the 11th. If I go Graham, there's a decent shot I'll also end up with first pick in the draft as well (we haven't decided how we're picking who gets what draft position, but if it's random, assuming at least 3-4 keep their first rounders from last year I'd have a 1/6 or so shot at first pick). I'm leaning Arian just because he's just so good, but Jimmy in the 11th with a shot at Arian or a top non-kept QB sounds pretty enticing.

    This is a tough one. My first instinct is to say keep Foster because of the dearth of elite fantasy RB's nowadays and the growing number of scoring TE's. But I think I'd have to actually go with Graham because of the round. Like you said, if you keep Graham you'll be picking no worse than 6th anyway. I'm not sure who the other teams would keep and would be available to you 1-6, but the bottom line is that you just got one of the two highest scoring TE's on the board in the 11th round. Foster plus your 11th round pick won't equal Graham plus your new 1st round pick.

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  • Thanks for the advice guys. I'll figure out who I think will be kept to give a better guess at what I'm looking at when I'm not at work (bastards block every fantasy site imaginable).

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  • shavisimo2 said...

    Vick's specific injury isn't a problem (his finger will be fine). However, it's likely he'll miss 3+ games anyway for various other injuries. I'd probably keep Brees, especialy with how good Brown was at the end of last year for the Steelers.

    Another question. I'm also in a keeper league and have to pick one guy to keep. You get to keep the guy in the round you drafted him. I could have Arian in the 1st or Jimmy Graham in the 11th. If I go Graham, there's a decent shot I'll also end up with first pick in the draft as well (we haven't decided how we're picking who gets what draft position, but if it's random, assuming at least 3-4 keep their first rounders from last year I'd have a 1/6 or so shot at first pick). I'm leaning Arian just because he's just so good, but Jimmy in the 11th with a shot at Arian or a top non-kept QB sounds pretty enticing.

    Brees is better than Vick and Wallace and the uncertainty that they both bring to the table combined. Would need to be a stud RB and Vick or Wallace to make a move like that.

    As far as the keep league. Jimmy Graham in a landslide. I personally am not a big fan of the rules of your keeper league where you can keep a 1st round pick from the previous year... Ours has to be 6th round and below. But Jimmy Graham in Round 11 is a huge steal. I don't know if you are in a PPR league but if so Graham is very easily a 3rd round pick if not significantly higher. Arian Foster is a great RB to have, but as you have said you may be able to get him or have a comparable pick otherwise. You cannot come close to duplicating Graham in the 11th.

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  • Joe Nitro said...

    Completely disagree about Wallace. He has proven to be more than a deep threat the past two years and has great hands. His first three years in the league Wallace has put up more yards and just as many touchdowns (24) as Larry Fitzgerald. Fantasy is all about stats and production. Wallace is one of the best at producing.

    That's what I'm saying Joe.....he's a deep threat but that's his biggest strength. Not going to turn this into an argument but his stats do not match Fitzgeralds. With Haley's new offense, and him wanting a huge contract, who knows how much effort he's going to put in this season.

    This post was edited by PSU2001 on 8/15/2012 at 8:58 AM

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  • Twitter talk has Mike Wallace as close to signing a 5 year $50 Million contract. TIFWIW

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  • shavisimo2 said...

    Vick's specific injury isn't a problem (his finger will be fine). However, it's likely he'll miss 3+ games anyway for various other injuries. I'd probably keep Brees, especialy with how good Brown was at the end of last year for the Steelers.

    Another question. I'm also in a keeper league and have to pick one guy to keep. You get to keep the guy in the round you drafted him. I could have Arian in the 1st or Jimmy Graham in the 11th. If I go Graham, there's a decent shot I'll also end up with first pick in the draft as well (we haven't decided how we're picking who gets what draft position, but if it's random, assuming at least 3-4 keep their first rounders from last year I'd have a 1/6 or so shot at first pick). I'm leaning Arian just because he's just so good, but Jimmy in the 11th with a shot at Arian or a top non-kept QB sounds pretty enticing.

    Graham is going in the first round in many drafts. You'd be crazy to not keep him

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  • Thanks for the input guys. +1's to everyone who helped!

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  • shavisimo2 said...

    Thanks for the input guys. +1's to everyone who helped!

    I'd keep Jimmy Graham, shav.

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  • Edit Edit Edit: I need to read questions better. Shavismo, Graham for an 11th is a no brainer no matter how good Foster is. I wish I was in such a league b/c I got Graham late last year too.

    PSUJOSH...Vick and Wallace for Brees sounds pretty fair to me. I checked out a bunch of auction value sights and they slightly favor Wallance and Vick which they should condsidering you are taking up an extra starting WR spot...I wouldn't do it unless I had one of the top back-up QBs and was weak at WR.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by thefonz on 8/15/2012 at 1:31 PM

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  • I ended up countering the offer and asked for Vick, Jamaal Charles and Wallace and traded away Brees and LeGarrett Blount (only because I feel that he's on a downward slope already) and the guy accepted.

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  • PSUjosh11 said...

    I ended up countering the offer and asked for Vick, Jamaal Charles and Wallace and traded away Brees and LeGarrett Blount (only because I feel that he's on a downward slope already) and the guy accepted.

    Probably not a raw deal, but who's your back QB?

    PSU2001

  • PSU2001 said...

    Probably not a raw deal, but who's your back QB?

    Matt Ryan - whom IMO will have a big year. I think the Falcons are going to throw the football a lot with Roddy White and Julio Jones out on the outside. Tony Gonzalez as a solid TE still.

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  • Ok - just wanted to make sure you had a legit 2nd option in case vick bites the dust.

    PSU2001

  • The league I'm in has a rookie keeper and we can keep one, non first round player, from last season.

    My rookie keeper is Julio Jones

    Which other player should I keep? Wes Welker, Chris Johnson or Ahmad Bradshaw. I'm leaning towards Welker but if Johnson has a year like 2 years ago that is too tough to pass up.

    danmcc

  • danmcc said...

    The league I'm in has a rookie keeper and we can keep one, non first round player, from last season.

    My rookie keeper is Julio Jones

    Which other player should I keep? Wes Welker, Chris Johnson or Ahmad Bradshaw. I'm leaning towards Welker but if Johnson has a year like 2 years ago that is too tough to pass up.

    Good choice on keeping Julio Jones. If you see my post above about Matt Ryan having a solid year, I think Jones is poised for a big year too.

    Personally, I'd keep Chris Johnson. I think he's due for a big comeback season. In New England, they have 3 other big time threats at WR/TE in Brandon Lloyd, Hernandez, and Gronk. Welker's numbers will probably drop a bit, IMO, unless the Pats have an record setting offense which is very much possible.

    This post was edited by PSUjosh11 on 8/17/2012 at 11:24 AM

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