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  • For example, say Robert Foster doesn't qualify to play D1 this year... What is the difference between going to prep for a year, or going JUCO? Is that the individuals choice? Is it determined by the scores, or where the player may need help, etc? Thinking about previous kids, Pullium a few years ago ended up in JUCO at Binn in Texas, where as a DC spent a year at Kiski? Just curious how it is determined?

    One more, how does it work with signing his LOI? Is the LOI only binding if the player is eligible?

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    NotoriousGMan

  • NotoriousG-Man said...

    For example, say Robert Foster doesn't qualify to play D1 this year... What is the difference between going to prep for a year, or going JUCO? Is that the individuals choice? Is it determined by the scores, or where the player may need help, etc? Thinking about previous kids, Pullium a few years ago ended up in JUCO at Binn in Texas, where as a DC spent a year at Kiski? Just curious how it is determined?

    One more, how does it work with signing his LOI? Is the LOI only binding if the player is eligible?

    I think prep schools basically count as an extra year of high school, and don't count towards eligibility. I think the motivation to go to JUCO is likely more exposure and better competition. In addition, you can start working towards a degree and probably get a scholarship.

    That being said, I don't know about specific details or limitations related to test scores or grades etc.

    PSUTodd217

  • NotoriousG-Man said...

    For example, say Robert Foster doesn't qualify to play D1 this year... What is the difference between going to prep for a year, or going JUCO? Is that the individuals choice? Is it determined by the scores, or where the player may need help, etc? Thinking about previous kids, Pullium a few years ago ended up in JUCO at Binn in Texas, where as a DC spent a year at Kiski? Just curious how it is determined?

    One more, how does it work with signing his LOI? Is the LOI only binding if the player is eligible?

    LOI's simply mean that a player HAS to play at that school during that year. If the player wants to go somewhere else, he needs to be released. Then (I THINK) he can practice with his new team, but must sit out that year, unless he steps down to FCS or lower competition (JUCO's included), then he can play right away.

    The Difference between JUCO's and prep schools is that with JUCO's, you are in college. You will earn college credits and will use eligibility. Kids that are sure-fire D1 players that don't make the grade usually do prep school as they will have major schools keep an eye on them. Boarderline kids do JUCO in hopes that they raise their profile to become D1 players (or that they attract better options).

    This post was edited by getmyjive11 on 12/16/2012 at 3:26 PM

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  • Are there restrictions on prep schools? Say you have good grades can you still do prep school? I know my scenario doesn't make sense, just curious.

    stigs007

  • Something else to consider is money. Prep schools are usually pretty expensive, and they have limited scholarships available.

    Pay lots of money for an extra year of HS or pay moderate money and get college credit?

    NittanyValley

  • stigs007 said...

    Are there restrictions on prep schools? Say you have good grades can you still do prep school? I know my scenario doesn't make sense, just curious.

    A friend of mine from HS went the prep school route for basketball in hopes of getting some better offers, and his grades were just fine (honor student).

    This post was edited by NittanyValley on 12/16/2012 at 4:05 PM

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  • NittanyValley said...

    A friend of mine from HS went the prep school route for basketball in hopes of getting some better offers, and his grades were just fine (honor student).

    How did it work out for him?

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  • psujmc1992 said...

    How did it work out for him?

    Athletically, not great: he ended up at a small, private liberal arts school (DIII) and only played for like 2-3 years.

    But, he got a pretty good education out of it and has a good job now.

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  • From my experience at Hun (Anthony Alosi PGd here), you must have above-average grades to be able to do a Post Graduate year. From an admissions standpoint, the school does not accept bad students because it would lower the average GPA, test scores, ect. I think this is why many more Non-Qualifying players go the JUCO route. Like previously posted, the level of competition and exposure at JUCOs are much better than at prep schools. Also, financially, prep schools cost a lot more money than JUCOs. I know the Hun tuition was somewhere around 40k a year, and athletes almost never got full scholarships. This could definitely sway a prospect towards junior college.

    rrossiceman12

  • rrossiceman12 said...

    From my experience at Hun (Anthony Alosi PGd here), you must have above-average grades to be able to do a Post Graduate year. From an admissions standpoint, the school does not accept bad students because it would lower the average GPA, test scores, ect. I think this is why many more Non-Qualifying players go the JUCO route. Like previously posted, the level of competition and exposure at JUCOs are much better than at prep schools. Also, financially, prep schools cost a lot more money than JUCOs. I know the Hun tuition was somewhere around 40k a year, and athletes almost never got full scholarships. This could definitely sway a prospect towards junior college.

    The Hun is not a good example. That is more of an elite school. Plus, Hun kids tend to be flops in CFB biggrin

    getmyjive11 ●

  • It's true. Hun players tend to be overrated by recruiting sites. Myron Rolle had a good college career (for the two years he actually played), but I don't think he deserved to be #1 in his class.

    rrossiceman12

  • stigs007 said...

    Are there restrictions on prep schools? Say you have good grades can you still do prep school? I know my scenario doesn't make sense, just curious.

    Actually your post makes perfect sense. The issue of acceptance is simply the requirements of the school they enter. They can accept any grades they wish.

    It makes no sense for a kid who has no chance of qualifying to go to a prep school because he still can't get a scholarship at a college if he is not qualified after prep school,meets the requirements by the NCAA as a qualifier.

    JC's are notorious for accepting "stones". If a kid can maintain progress at a JC, he can "transfer" to a 4year college and get a scholie without ever being a H'S qualifier

    Since a JC is a college, the eligibility clock begins when the kid enters,Prep school is not college so it doesn't effect eligibility.

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