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Did Laschout.org pass away with JoePa?

  • I actually hope they don't post any more nor will I read them. They got the BOB hiring completely wrong and then after he was hired they jumped on the "end of PSU" bandwagon and ripped the new coach w/o giving any time to see how the staff would do. So far BOB has literally done NOTHING wrong and I'm excited about PSU football moving forward.

    PSUJT0409

  • PSUJT$ said...

    I actually hope they don't post any more nor will I read them. They got the BOB hiring completely wrong and then after he was hired they jumped on the "end of PSU" bandwagon and ripped the new coach w/o giving any time to see how the staff would do. So far BOB has literally done NOTHING wrong and I'm excited about PSU football moving forward.

    We are ok if you do not read anymore. We will sleep somehow. That being said we ripped Joyner and what was being worked on until Christmas. Bob has done more in a few months then the program had done in years. Will we question things in the future. Hell yes we are not koolaide drinkers. Will we break stories when we can. Yep Are we trying to compete with anyother sites. Not at all. It will always be a free site run by a diverse group of guys.

    Trock56

  • PSUJT$ said...

    I actually hope they don't post any more nor will I read them. They got the BOB hiring completely wrong and then after he was hired they jumped on the "end of PSU" bandwagon and ripped the new coach w/o giving any time to see how the staff would do. So far BOB has literally done NOTHING wrong and I'm excited about PSU football moving forward.

    How have we been 'wrong' about the BOB hiring? The guy hasn't coached a single game yet. That tweet was done in anger, yes, and it was regretful (I didn't tweet it), but everyone needs to relax and wait and see what results he can produce first.

    He has done a great job SO FAR, the only real thing I personally questioned was the Roof hiring but with the changes in the weight room and the off-season workouts have been extremely impressive. Will be interesting to see what he can do with a real QB in O'Brien this fall.

    psu34

  • Trock56 said...

    We are ok if you do not read anymore. We will sleep somehow. That being said we ripped Joyner and what was being worked on until Christmas. Bob has done more in a few months then the program had done in years. Will we question things in the future. Hell yes we are not koolaide drinkers. Will we break stories when we can. Yep Are we trying to compete with anyother sites. Not at all. It will always be a free site run by a diverse group of guys.

    As someone who has followed the "insiders" over the years I guess my main problem is the reaction you guys have whenever you are questioned. For as many times as you guys have been right over the years you have been wrong just as many. I can't count the number of times I'd hear about new offensive schemes being cooked up in practice over the summer only to see the same vanilla crap in the opener. I'd then be assured that the coaches were keeping the real offense under wraps for the real games. It never happened. Williams Wallace is the first example that comes to mind. I also remember "insider reports" from summer practice one year that talked about how the defense would be running a Patriots-style blitzing scheme where the DBs and LBs would all be walking around and the guys blitzing would be determined by who was moving forward when the ball was snapped. That never happened.

    Now, I understand that things are fluid, and that not everything that gets thrown around in practice will come to fruition, and that a recruit who is a lock can change his mind at the last minute. But the thing that bothered me was whenever people questioned you all on something your response was to walk away so as to punish us for asking questions. That's certainly your right, but it sure leaves a bad taste in my mouth. For example, I'd really like to ask what was behind the belief that there was "Something Brewing on the Blue Turf," but from past experience that would ruffle a lot of feathers. I would be fine if you said you can't give anymore details because your contacts would be upset and left it at that. I'd then be free to take what you say with a grain of salt and decide for myself if you actually have inside info or simply think you do. But that hasn't been my experience with the laschout crew in the past.

    An Actual Lion

  • psu34 said...

    How have we been 'wrong' about the BOB hiring?

    Well...

    #1. Regarding the RUMOR that BOB might be the guy, "The bottom line on this rumor is we aren’t buying it. This leak smells like an intentional plant to rile people up and then make Joyner look like a hero when he announces the real hire. Quite frankly, Penn State fans better pray that is the case, or PENN STATE FOOTBALL AS WE ALL KNOW IT IS DEAD AND GONE."

    #2. After it was leaked that BOB WAS the guy, "Hypothetically, if Bill O’Brien or a current NFL assistant is the pick, does the University have any earthly idea at HOW MUCH MONEY THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE OVERNIGHT? The STEP program already created an attendance problem last season. A bad hire (and make no mistake about it, Bill O’Brien or any of the NFL assistants rumored are horrible hires) will probably double the amount of empty seats in Beaver Stadium and non-renewals for the Nittany Lion Club. It’s hard to fathom that people in positions of authority at Penn State don’t understand this concept."

    I haven't heard anything regarding seat renewals but it seems that interest in the football team is at an all-time high as I predicted would happen when Joe was no longer the coach for whatever the reason. (I never predicted he would go out like he did.)

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  • An Actual Lion said...

    As someone who has followed the "insiders" over the years I guess my main problem is the reaction you guys have whenever you are questioned. For as many times as you guys have been right over the years you have been wrong just as many. I can't count the number of times I'd hear about new offensive schemes being cooked up in practice over the summer only to see the same vanilla crap in the opener. I'd then be assured that the coaches were keeping the real offense under wraps for the real games. It never happened. Williams Wallace is the first example that comes to mind. I also remember "insider reports" from summer practice one year that talked about how the defense would be running a Patriots-style blitzing scheme where the DBs and LBs would all be walking around and the guys blitzing would be determined by who was moving forward when the ball was snapped. That never happened.

    Now, I understand that things are fluid, and that not everything that gets thrown around in practice will come to fruition, and that a recruit who is a lock can change his mind at the last minute. But the thing that bothered me was whenever people questioned you all on something your response was to walk away so as to punish us for asking questions. That's certainly your right, but it sure leaves a bad taste in my mouth. For example, I'd really like to ask what was behind the belief that there was "Something Brewing on the Blue Turf," but from past experience that would ruffle a lot of feathers. I would be fine if you said you can't give anymore details because your contacts would be upset and left it at that. I'd then be free to take what you say with a grain of salt and decide for myself if you actually have inside info or simply think you do. But that hasn't been my experience with the laschout crew in the past.

    Pm me and I will share the background of the blue field story. We worded it like we did for a reason.

    As far as how certain posters react to others usually has to do with the way it is presented. Usually when someone happens it quickly turns to a you are full of crap you have no connection tones rather than a question on what happened. Some people can not post sources but if a staff member says we have. A kid and kid changes his mind a small percentage of the time do you not want people reporting it? Most guys will give you a better explanation on pm at least if you are not attacking them on post.

    Trock56

  • Trock56 said...

    We are ok if you do not read anymore. We will sleep somehow. That being said we ripped Joyner and what was being worked on until Christmas. Bob has done more in a few months then the program had done in years. Will we question things in the future. Hell yes we are not koolaide drinkers. Will we break stories when we can. Yep Are we trying to compete with anyother sites. Not at all. It will always be a free site run by a diverse group of guys.

    You guys literally wrote an article entitled "RIP PSU Football." You guys were just mad you didn't get the coach you wanted and were throwing a pity party! Tell me what Laschout actually got right the entire time they were "breaking info" on the coaching search? They're no better then sekrah!

    This post was edited by PSUJT0409 on 3/27/2012 at 7:26 AM

    PSUJT0409

  • LaschOut is fun, even if you disagree with what they post. Like them or not, whenever there's a new post or tweet, you can guarantee that there will be three new threads on this (and every other) site saying OMG NEW LASCHOUT POST. If they can generate some more discussion and help keep the rest of us occupied during an eight-month offseason, what's the real harm?

    scrappled

  • The answer here lies with each poster/reader. Given all that happened over the past few months, peoples' credibility, not to mention loyalty, is out there for all to see and scrutinize. You make your own judgements based on what was said and what happened in an extremely stressful time. At least these guys kept it on "the board" unlike Short and Arrington who put it all out there in the media. Fortunately or perhaps unfortunately in their opinions, recruits aren't taking their so-called advice.

    Solo

  • Solo said...

    At least these guys kept it on "the board" unlike Short and Arrington who put it all out there in the media.

    Unless these guys are former players or coaches, comparing their criticisms to those of Short and Arrington is pointless.

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  • psujmc1992 said...

    Unless these guys are former players or coaches, comparing their criticisms to those of Short and Arrington is pointless.

    Agreed, the only reason they didn't blast the BOB hire in the media is b/c no one outside of the PSU community cares enough to listen!

    PSUJT0409

  • LO is fine if you take them FWIW. Nobody is perfect all the time and the smug way they delivered things for years is what soured people. If you wrap a diamond in a pile of crap...it still stinks. In other words their presentation was lacking quite a bit, but the content itself was good. Since they aren't asking for money they can deliver it however they want to I guess.

    "One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."

    LaJollaLion

  • LaJollaLion said...

    LO is fine if you take them FWIW. Nobody is perfect all the time and the smug way they delivered things for years is what soured people. If you wrap a diamond in a pile of crap...it still stinks. In other words their presentation was lacking quite a bit, but the content itself was good. Since they aren't asking for money they can deliver it however they want to I guess.

    Yes but for people who claim to be "insiders," they need to get stuff correct more than 0% of the time to qualify!

    This post was edited by PSUJT0409 on 3/27/2012 at 9:54 AM

    PSUJT0409

  • Interesting thread

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  • PSUJT$ said...

    Yes but for people who claim to be "insiders," they need to get stuff correct more than 0% of the time to qualify!

    You can't be serious.

    psu34

  • psu34 said...

    You can't be serious.

    Regarding the BOB hiring and the effects it would have on PSU, they were completely wrong.

    PSUJT0409

  • PSUJT$ said...

    Regarding the BOB hiring and the effects it would have on PSU, they were completely wrong.

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    PSUFlyers

  • PSUFlyers said...

    HAHA love the pic! Not mad just trying to point out that these people who claim to be "insiders" are really not as informed as they claim. Perhaps they know people or people who know people but I've yet to see any evidence of that but I'd be happy to see evidence to the contrary.

    This post was edited by PSUJT0409 on 3/27/2012 at 10:27 AM

    PSUJT0409

  • Interesting thread.....

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by nttnylyon on 3/28/2012 at 12:39 AM

    nttnylyon

  • psujmc1992 said...

    Unless these guys are former players or coaches, comparing their criticisms to those of Short and Arrington is pointless.

    My "point" is simply they made their feelings known on a message board NOT in the public media as opposed to the other two who deliberately blasted the program and knew and wanted it to harm that program as they perceived it.

    Solo

  • Solo said...

    My "point" is simply they made their feelings known on a message board NOT in the public media as opposed to the other two who deliberately blasted the program and knew and wanted it to harm that program as they perceived it.

    And my point still stands. Who cares if anonymous bloggers with unknown connections to the program blasted the program? Lavar's and Brandon's opinions carried weight because of who they are. No-one even knows who Laschout is. Their opinions, good or bad, would have no effect on the program.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by psujmc1992 on 3/28/2012 at 9:26 AM

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  • psujmc1992 said...

    Unless these guys are former players or coaches, comparing their criticisms to those of Short and Arrington is pointless.

    Some of them are.

    F the NCAA F the BOT F ESPN F Sandusky

    PSU42Fan

  • PSU42Fan said...

    Some of them are.

    While that may or may not be true, until they reveal themselves, no-one, except those who read their blog, cares what they have to say.

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  • psujmc1992 said...

    While that may or may not be true, until they reveal themselves, no-one, except those who read their blog, cares what they have to say.

    And what would be the point of that? It's like asking an insider to reveal it's sources. Take what we post FWIW.

    psu34

  • psu34 said...

    And what would be the point of that? It's like asking an insider to reveal it's sources. Take what we post FWIW.

    I don't really care if you reveal yourselves or not. That wasn't my point. I read what Laschout posts/tweets with a grain of salt. Some, like 42, seem to know who you are. I don't. IMO, to the many more people like me out there, laschout is just a collection of sekrah's.

    However, I was responding to a post comparing lashout's relatively quiet criticism to Lavar and Brandon's more public outbursts. The implication was that laschout did not wish to hurt the program. All I am saying is that laschout does not have the ability to affect the program in any tangible way since no-one knows who they are. So to compare laschout to two guys that everyone knows and that were willing to put their names behind their statements seemed a bit funny to me.

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