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  • appoo said...

    What an absurd statement.

    Tony Dungy, Lorenzo Romar. Two of the most respected coaches in their sport, NEVER yell or cuss. Larry Johnson, one of the most respected DL coaches in America. Doesn't yell/cuss at his kids. I've NEVER seen Nick Saban or Les Miles loose their cool on the side line. I have no doubt they give it to their kids, but they know better than to do it in on National TV. If you follow soccer, pay attention to Sir Alex Ferguson. He will NEVER attack one of his own players in public, and almost never says a bad word about them to the press. He keeps it all behind doors. He's considered the best man manager in the biggest sport of the world.

    Coaching is about winning the respect of your players, not their fear. There are obviously many ways to win that respect. I don't think Chip Kelly's manner is a very good one, JMO though.

    Never saw good ol' Saban lose his sh*t, eh?

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  • appoo said...

    What an absurd statement.

    Tony Dungy, Lorenzo Romar. Two of the most respected coaches in their sport, NEVER yell or cuss. Larry Johnson, one of the most respected DL coaches in America. Doesn't yell/cuss at his kids. I've NEVER seen Nick Saban or Les Miles loose their cool on the side line. I have no doubt they give it to their kids, but they know better than to do it in on National TV. If you follow soccer, pay attention to Sir Alex Ferguson. He will NEVER attack one of his own players in public, and almost never says a bad word about them to the press. He keeps it all behind doors. He's considered the best man manager in the biggest sport of the world.

    Coaching is about winning the respect of your players, not their fear. There are obviously many ways to win that respect. I don't think Chip Kelly's manner is a very good one, JMO though.

    All you're showing is that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

    MTayl72

  • MTayl72 said...

    All you're showing is that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

    Yes, which is in direct contradiction to what our Domer friend said, when he said only coaches who don't care don't yell.

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    appoo

  • bonovoxpsu said...

    Never saw good ol' Saban lose his sh*t, eh?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRjDVsw-eQU

    Not at the same level as Chip Kelly/RichRod. That's also not really losing it. That's also about the worst you'll see Saban, and it doesn't happen very often.

    Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

    appoo

  • appoo said...

    What an absurd statement.

    Tony Dungy, Lorenzo Romar. Two of the most respected coaches in their sport, NEVER yell or cuss. Larry Johnson, one of the most respected DL coaches in America. Doesn't yell/cuss at his kids. I've NEVER seen Nick Saban or Les Miles loose their cool on the side line. I have no doubt they give it to their kids, but they know better than to do it in on National TV. If you follow soccer, pay attention to Sir Alex Ferguson. He will NEVER attack one of his own players in public, and almost never says a bad word about them to the press. He keeps it all behind doors. He's considered the best man manager in the biggest sport of the world.

    Coaching is about winning the respect of your players, not their fear. There are obviously many ways to win that respect. I don't think Chip Kelly's manner is a very good one, JMO though.

    SAF lays out plenty of 'hair dryer' blows.

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  • appoo said...

    Not at the same level as Chip Kelly/RichRod. That's also not really losing it. That's also about the worst you'll see Saban, and it doesn't happen very often.

    Not trying to be "that guy" but I assume you are talking about Brian Kelly at ND cause Chip Kelly is at Oregon. I agree with your points tho that a coach does not need to yell to get his message across. I've learned that if you yell rarely it really gets the message across when you do...

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  • tdiddy said...

    SAF lays out plenty of 'hair dryer' blows.

    In the lockeroom and behind closed doors. Away from the public. I don't know that he's yet said something negative publicly about David Beckham, which was his most famous "hair dryer" moment.

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    appoo

  • roadzy33 said...

    Not trying to be "that guy" but I assume you are talking about Brian Kelly at ND cause Chip Kelly is at Oregon. I agree with your points tho that a coach does not need to yell to get his message across. I've learned that if you yell rarely it really gets the message across when you do...

    I always get them confused for some reason.

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    appoo

  • appoo said...

    What an absurd statement.

    Tony Dungy, Lorenzo Romar. Two of the most respected coaches in their sport, NEVER yell or cuss. Larry Johnson, one of the most respected DL coaches in America. Doesn't yell/cuss at his kids. I've NEVER seen Nick Saban or Les Miles loose their cool on the side line. I have no doubt they give it to their kids, but they know better than to do it in on National TV. If you follow soccer, pay attention to Sir Alex Ferguson. He will NEVER attack one of his own players in public, and almost never says a bad word about them to the press. He keeps it all behind doors. He's considered the best man manager in the biggest sport of the world.

    Coaching is about winning the respect of your players, not their fear. There are obviously many ways to win that respect. I don't think Chip Kelly's manner is a very good one, JMO though.

    I've seen Saban pretty ticked off on the sidelines quite a few times. Nothing like Kelly, but throwing his headset on the ground like a little kid, yes.

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  • And Kelly is doing that in public I can always imagine what he is doing behind closed doors

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  • fabfour12324 said...

    And Kelly is doing that in public I can always imagine what he is doing behind closed doors

    Just read something where Aaron Lynch (former 5* DE) got into a fight with another player. Kelly apparently was livid and said that anymore fights means they won't be attending practice or something (can't remember exactly what the punishment would be).

    I don't know how bad the fight was, but we hear about scuffles all the time it seems.

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  • psubills62 said...

    Just read something where Aaron Lynch (former 5* DE) got into a fight with another player. Kelly apparently was livid and said that anymore fights means they won't be attending practice or something (can't remember exactly what the punishment would be).

    I don't know how bad the fight was, but we hear about scuffles all the time it seems.

    I had a ND fan friend of mine (we all have one) tell me he expects Lynch to transfer from ND. He said this spring, but maybe after next season. He said thats what he had heard. TIFIW

    MTayl72

  • MTayl72 said...

    I had a ND fan friend of mine (we all have one) tell me he expects Lynch to transfer from ND. He said this spring, but maybe after next season. He said thats what he had heard. TIFIW

    That's actually why I read the article - Lynch had to go home to take care of "personal matters." There's rumors around some message boards (like OSU's) that he's transferring. No idea how true it is.

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  • psubills62 said...

    That's actually why I read the article - Lynch had to go home to take care of "personal matters." There's rumors around some message boards (like OSU's) that he's transferring. No idea how true it is.

    Hmmmm interesting. Anyone remember his final schools from his Sr year of HS? He's from FL I believe, and with a RS year to burn I'd bet FSU and/or UF would listen.

    MTayl72

  • MTayl72 said...

    Hmmmm interesting. Anyone remember his final schools from his Sr year of HS? He's from FL I believe, and with a RS year to burn I'd bet FSU and/or UF would listen.

    It sounds like his mother moved from Florida to Ohio. I think he had originally been committed to FSU, but don't quote me on that.

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  • psubills62 said...

    It sounds like his mother moved from Florida to Ohio. I think he had originally been committed to FSU, but don't quote me on that.

    He was the guy that flipped back and forth from FSU

    This post was edited by NittanyEagles on 4/4/2012 at 2:46 PM

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  • D-Mo said...

    Maybe you haven't noticed the schedule we have this year. Navy (in Ireland), Purdue, at Mich St., Michigan, Miami (Soldier Field), Stanford, BYU, at Oklahoma, Pitt, at BC, Wake Forest, at USC. Not quite the cake walk so many people imply. BK working at adding SEC schools to schedule in the near future. Plus, at ND, you get to play all over the place. Playing around the country every year, even other countries. You have all these "experts" saying that ND has easy schedules, then out of the other side of their mouths they say that ND shouldn't have schedules like the one coming up (2012) because it's too tough. Which way is it? Schedules are made so far ahead, you don't know if a school will be good or not 5 years from now. All you can do is schedule. smoke

    So y'all are looking at 6-7 this year?

    That should be fun.

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  • psubills62 said...

    Just read something where Aaron Lynch (former 5* DE) got into a fight with another player. Kelly apparently was livid and said that anymore fights means they won't be attending practice or something (can't remember exactly what the punishment would be).

    I don't know how bad the fight was, but we hear about scuffles all the time it seems.

    Would've been the first time in over a year that a ND defender outside of Te'o hit somebody.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    So y'all are looking at 6-7 this year?

    That should be fun.

    If they go 6-7, Kelly is gone and many of those kids will be as well.

    I easily could see a 7-6 type of season in South Bend, which would put Kelly on the hot seat.

    Hamilton Lion

  • psubills62 said...

    Just read something where Aaron Lynch (former 5* DE) got into a fight with another player. Kelly apparently was livid and said that anymore fights means they won't be attending practice or something (can't remember exactly what the punishment would be).

    I don't know how bad the fight was, but we hear about scuffles all the time it seems.

    Any contact sport with a lot of intensity, you're gonna have scuffles on the practice field. That's just the nature of the beast when you recruit these ultra competitive kids.

    Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

    appoo

  • appoo said...

    Any contact sport with a lot of intensity, you're gonna have scuffles on the practice field. That's just the nature of the beast when you recruit these ultra competitive kids.

    Plus one.

    I've seen best friends and roomates get in nasty scraps on the field. It happens.

    MTayl72

  • appoo said...

    Any contact sport with a lot of intensity, you're gonna have scuffles on the practice field. That's just the nature of the beast when you recruit these ultra competitive kids.

    Of course. That's why I said that I didn't know how bad the fight was. Scuffling on the field isn't a big deal. However, if it was a Drake/McGloin situation where they started fighting in the locker room afterwards, that might be an issue.

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  • Hamilton Lion said...

    If they go 6-7, Kelly is gone and many of those kids will be as well.

    I easily could see a 7-6 type of season in South Bend, which would put Kelly on the hot seat.

    They're looking at getting blown out by USC and most likely OU as well, with losses almost guaranteed at MSU and UM and Stanford. Navy is no pushover, especially for a defense as bad as theirs. Miami will be improved from last year, so that games a toss up.

    I see a maximum of 8 losses, with a minimum of 5. Either way, Kelly won't be around too much longer unless they stop scheduling all these competitive teams.

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  • psubills62 said...

    Of course. That's why I said that I didn't know how bad the fight was. Scuffling on the field isn't a big deal. However, if it was a Drake/McGloin situation where they started fighting in the locker room afterwards, that might be an issue.

    I think McGloin acted like a douche based on what he himself read on twitter. I've seen these scuffles spill into the locker room, because after an intense practice you don't just come down after a couple of minutes. but that seemed to be a pretty unusual case of it being well after practice, both kids back into their street clothes, and Drake apologizing.

    But basically, fights happen after practice and in the lockerroom as well. Not as often, but hey - male kids are going to be male kids.

    Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

    appoo