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I thought he went to Oklahoma?
ARob's supposed great hands had huge drops in both of our losses:
"In both games, Robinson has dropped some key passes that could have gone for big plays. Against Ohio, he failed to come up with a grab on fourth down from the Ohio thirty yard line with the Nittany Lions clinging to a four point lead. The contest against Virginia sticks out more. He dropped two consecutive passes in Virginia territory late in the third quarter, but the most crushing one came earlier, as Robinson dropped a beautiful throw from Steven Bench with less than a minute before halftime. This would have given the Nittany Lions a 14-3 lead and momentum after thirty minutes of play as opposed to hanging onto a 7-3 advantage."
Oh how easy it is to forget because he has looked good, but he had 4 crucial drops in the first two games - coincidentally, they were both losses.
Yeah, and they're a pretty good football team who had a realistic shot at a national title.
Justin Brown can't help that Landry Jones can't progress through his reads, or hold onto the football inside his own teams 20
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
They're a decent football team with no realistic shot at a title.
Every WR drops some passes they should have caught. The difference is that JB seemed to literally drop every other pass that he got his hands on.
Decent is Rutgers. OU is a pretty good football team sans one incompetent QB.
They had a very realistic shot at a title actually. They brought a lot of starters back, returned Mike Stoops who is one of the best DCs in America, and had three games this year that could throw them off (KSU, Texas, WVU). They lost one, but will probably beat both Texas and West Virginia to win the conference and play Rutgers in the Fiesta Bowl.
They have no shot at a title now, but they absolutely had one when Brown transferred.
PureRockFury thinks Logan Thomas can be compared (not unfavorably) to Cam Newton. :-)
Tells me all I need to know, thanks Boulder.
Tex, I don't think they did, but that's my opinion. Not that I think Brown made the wrong choice leaving.
Anyways, here's the projected stats of the two big losses who are playing this year (Fera has been injured, and Fortt is RSing liked he wanted to):
Justin Brown, WR, Oklahoma(17)
48 catches, 540 yards, 0 TDs
Silas Redd, RB, USC(13)
1014 rushing yards, 117 receiving yards, 12 total TDs
Make of them what you will.
He is the 13th ranked receiver on FSU currently with three catches for 15 yards.
Which is much better than he would be doing here.
I honestly doubt he'd have a catch if he stayed at PSU. BOB just didn't like his size.
The OP says "catches everything throw his way." Of course I didn't take that literally, but to say he hasn't already had a drops problem is crazy. He had 4 drops in the first two games. It was a problem. It hurt us big time. Let's not trash everything Brown did and then put ARob on a pedestal on the dropping issue when he's had his own problems. Hopefully it's in the past.
Don't need to read past that.
You don't think Thomas is a big, athletic QB who can run the ball?
He's obviously big. He's athletic for his size. But his athleticism doesn't even show up on the radar with Cam Newton's athleticism.
Different skillsets. One is a bulldozer who looks to hit, and the other uses finesse to make guys miss.
JB's decision may have the worst impact of all in terms of going anywhere beyond college. Numbers are poor in a pass happy spread offense. Oh well, he's a Sooner now....that was his call to make and no MNC is coming for him.
"One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."
So Brown will have less receiving yards than last year in an inept offense.
Silas will have less rushing yards than last.
That is, unless they pull some pretty damn good games out consistently. Have another 17yd rushing game and its not looking good.
"Whoever’s trying to kill me isn’t getting the job done. But one day, I’m going to punch that f___r in the face."
The other thing that is different about them... one is really really good, and the other one is... meh. :-)
I don't think either expected to match their numbers from the year before. Both knew that going in they'd, at best, split time.
I think the key factor here is that this type of offense doesn't care about your name and that has no influence on success. (Ironically since we now have names on the jersey)
Look at NE for the past 10+ years. They have plugged in anyone at anytime and those guys have been successful. It's about the system, matchups, etc... When the offense is really clicking....there will be a new name every week that shines and without taking anything away from them, a large part of it won't be because of talent, but because of coaching and putting them in good situations.
Guys like Brown, Redd, and many others that came through here the past 10 years have succeed on talent alone, not by being put in good situations. Now, ironically, they left when they were going to have help to not succeed just by talent, but by coaching.
Agree. They've played in bowl games. It's strange that they would be willing to play in an offense designed and run by Gallen Hall and Jay Paterno, but not one designed and run by Bill O'Brien. But oh well. To each their own I guess.
Maybe that was part of it. Maybe they didn't want to be a guy who shined one game but not the next. Maybe they decided they both wanted to be THE guy getting the work. (In which case Brown was certainly not ever going to be that where he went, and Redd was going to be a little bit, but not THAT much)
Regardless....this system is what is important for me. It's not necessaily the 5 star recruit now, but the athlete that this system allows to develop. We should be able to get away with 3 star athletes in recruiting for the next few years by putting them in the right situation. Jury is still out how well BOB will do long term with in game coaching decisions. But so far, it's clear he has an idea of what he's doing on offense.
Never claimed otherwise.
It doesn't help that Thomas is only in his third or fourth year of playing QB, lost the two leading receivers in school history, lost a great RB, and has now been put in a new no-huddle read option offense that is putrid.
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