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I'm hoping that BOB is just waiting for the legal system to help sort this all out. I still don't want him here regardless. It was a felony. If it happened, he doesn't deserve to be here. This isn't a charity we are running. Sorry, but this isn't his first mistake, and if it was going on since Oct, that was nearly half a year where the "light didn't go on". We don't need that.
I'm just wondering if BOB got the whole story....
agreed and i don't want him being a bad influence to others on the team
I have a real hard time believing BOB would be ok with a recruit committing a federal felony. I think his ship has sailed if allegations are true.
I'm sure BOB has more info than we do, probably from better sources than message boards. The DA said he is probably looking at probation so I doubt he could have been printing money.
If we have have learned any thing from our own difficulties at PSU over the last year, it should be let's not rush to any judgement. Let the judicial system work through the process.The arrest was made and announced. Let's not also pile on rumors and inuendo because of what we heard in the hood. Once the facts are known, then take a decsion. There is no need to rush to make any decision on this young man at this time. He is not enrolled and wont enroll until either the summer or the fall classes. There is no immediate replacement for him if he is eventually dropped. My feeling is that PSU should delay his enrollment until the Fall so that his situation can be sorted out. If he is found guilty of a crime and PSU still grants him a scholarship , then he should be put a very short leash and understand that any strike against him means he is gone.
I agree with everything in this post. Let's allow the legal system to work this out before we call for the kid to be kicked outta school.
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And this would be a third chance.
actually a second...the fight at Sheetz ,that everyone here likes to hype up moreso than it was, is water under the bridge and nothing was filed/charged to Issah. He'll be under a very strong microscope in his time at PSU, if he makes it...of that much I'm sure.
This post was edited by PSU12 13 months ago
Charged or not, a recruit is under a big microscope. And there are very few people outside of that community that I have refer to it as not a big deal.
Either way, there's a pattern here and the young man needs to get his head out of his ass.
anyone know how old he is 17 or 18.
If 17 he gets prosecuted as juvenile, on probation & charges dismimsed.
If 18, apply him for ARD, probation, charges dismissed.
Either way, lets give the kid a chance. Its a nonviolent offense. I dont see him losing everything based on a happy meal.
Pretty sure he is 18.
Yes because its about the happy meal.
You do realize he bought the happy meal to get the change right? That's how he "cleaned" the money. Buy a $5 happy meal with a fake $20 gets you $15 of real money.
Nonviolent? So that's makes it ok to steal from how many innocent, hardworking people? This is a horrible crime. Not just a kid doing stupid things.
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That's strange, I've eaten a lot of happy meals and never gotten charged with a felony.
Come on man, he willingly went into a McDonalds with money he knew was fake and tried to "clean" it. It's a big deal.
This post was edited by PSU17 13 months ago
It's an intent crime, you don't get charged with the forgery unless you altered it in some way to pass it as authentic cash. It probably wasn't that good if they got caught so easily.
Who knows, the guy also pretty much just advocated for him to get a light penalty since he's committed here. I hope justice is served, even if that means he goes to jail for awhile. No special treatment. Whether that's good or bad for us, just want it to be right.
I'm with you big guy...I'm not a fan of special treatment for anyone. It'll be a tough lesson, but he obviously needs to learn it.
He's not going to jail. Im just saying. The first one was supposed to be racial (the fight im guessing is what you're getting at- you call me the N word as a 17 yr old and I might fight too) and I understand that. I am not condoning what he did. But as a first time offender, he's not going to jail. And BOB, as Audrey Snyder got at, probably knew and still talked about him in the presser. If he's on the team, he's got a short leash. What is this code? "There's one"? Im saying if he makes it through this and gets on the team (he will likely be slapped on the wrist w probation), BOB will have him on a very short leash. Aka he will get the Oakman treatment on his next offense. Im not saying that what he did wasnt wrong. But as a first time offender, he's not going to jail, and he's 18... Maybe this is a wake up call and embarrassed him enough to teach him a lesson. It's a lesson that many would never have to learn, bc they arent friggin dumb as hell. But nonetheless, it looks like he's going to walk... You can be mad if you want, but that's what it is... "There's one"? lol
This post was edited by rmj147 13 months ago
WE ARE! And we will always be...
The court system will definitely help him, even though he's 18, it depends on his track record up to now. If its his first crime as an adult, he'll get deferred finding(extended time depending in curcumstances) with extensive probation, restitution, community service (extensive), and suspended jail time, with maybe a day to serve.
With that said, just because our system is so friendly doesn't make it any less of a crime to me. It's not a civil/summary offense, this is legitimate criminal behavior that evolves the deeper it goes, would/could eventually lead to violence. He made terrible decisions that he thought out and acted on with intent. He deserves all punishment coming his way, he earned it.
I'm usually the one defending kids for being irrational and making mistakes, but in a much more serious situation like this, I'm on the other side of the fence.
This post was edited by NitLionsGo 13 months ago
1) Do we know if he tried to 'clean' a few $5 bills or a few $100s? Dont know about you, but it makes a difference in my mind
2) If anyone here hansn't ever in their lives stolen or been dishonest with money, i'd love to know
"You can take bowl games and you can take external things from people, but you can't take a warrior's heart."
I agree with this wholeheartedly. But at the same time, he will probably get just what you described... Extensive community service and probation. That's what I was getting at. Im not excusing his dumb ass behavior. I am talking reality... It was the dumbest thing anyone could have done though, and Im very disappointed in him. I hope this wakes his dumb ass up and he turns it into a positive.
Nope, I have never committed a federal crime.
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