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After everything PSU has gone through, we should all know now to wait for the facts. That being said, unless anything changes from what we know on this case, he should be gone. This wasn't a case of a school fight or alcohol. This is a case of counterfeiting and money laundering (although his involvement is unclear beyond using fake bills).
And I should feel bad for him why? What's to say he isn't the bad crowd?
I said multiple times I would wait until pulling his ship myself. But this kid has earned his punishment whatever it may be. That's probation, no scholarship here, jail time, whatever. He's got himself to blame, no one else. And that's too bad.
... but seriously, In N' Out is overrated.
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
Strangely, I saw one of these in Ft. Worth yesterday. Didn't realize they were making it down here.
The one off of 7th?
My old stomping grounds, I was there for lunch all the time in high school (not at the in n out, but that area).
They're not too prominent, obviously, but I guess since they found a way to supply one with fresh materials then there will be more popping up soon. It was really busy when they first put it in, but I haven't been there and have no desire to. Braums and Whataburger are enough for me.
Very well said. Some kids need help reaching their potential, in life, not in athletics. We have some obligation to help people achieve. But they have to be able to rise above their surroundings and/or leave it behind them. If they can do that, awesome. Best example is Navorro Bowman. That kid came from a bad area, and could not go home without facing trouble. He lived it, and he acknowledged that he had a hard time going home. He was fine at PSU.
So he matures as a person, and becomes a success story.
Young Zayd may have made an unrecoverable mistake. At least unrecoverable for PSU. He may resurface in the future, and if so good for him, but unless something comes out that exonerates him, I think we opened up a spot for the very small class of 2014.
In the end I am willing to bet Issah will still be at PSU. It is not like there are players like him still available. Take the scholly away to show you mean business. Wait for the kid to get it dropped down to something lesser and reoffer with his strikes already at 2.
Yep that's it, the one off 7th.
Braums burgers are incredible.
yahoo is reporting that OB pulled his ship, but gave him a chance to get it back. One of the stipulations though is a year at a military academy... So if Issah is going play football at PSU it won't be until 2014 at the earliest.
Personally, I think that is pretty fair.
It is. He is saying...you need to be punished. However we are standing by you. Go to MA, do a year, get the grades and the scholarship is back and we will chalk it up to being stupid, but make no mistake you have no room for error now
I think I would have to see a source to believe that one.
Not saying it isn't true, I am just having a hrad time they told a kid to do so and open him up to all the schools to recruit him again.
I think it would be more beneficial for him to come under the garunteed to Redshirt where he can be around PSU all the time.
I would take PSU discipline over a MA any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
I think its pretty fair and the right thing to do. Frankly he needs to improve that we can count on him to be here and use one of these ships on. Were telling him it'll be there if he does this, but he has to meet us half way. That's pretty good.
Let's also not act like he was raking in huge offers before. His Oregon one was conditional and outside of that we were by far his best offer. The same schools we would be opening him up to are the same ones who would likely take him now anyways.
I don't think it's hard to believe at all considering cutting him completely loose was an option. I get that sense that PSU isn't interested in him unless he's willing to prove he wants to be at PSU and deserves it. If he either doesn't want to be here or doesn't want to do what he needs to, then PSU isn't losing out on anything... let him go elsewhere.
Not a big fan of their shakes?
They probably are my favorite fast food burger. I usually say whataburger because of their party melts and the obscene amount of times I ate their in high school.
Hm, well that's an interesting compromise by BOB. Too bad it doesn't seem like Zayd is going to bite because I'm sure he knows someone will pick him up with the chance to play Division I ball right away this fall. BOB is a genius for that compromise, assuming it's true.
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
Do you have inside info? It seems to me that, if this scenario is true, BOB would not have offered it (and had the info leaked) unless Zayd had agreed. If Zayd was opposed to working with BOB, I think BOB would have just released him.
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“We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill
I wouldn't assume that. He's a good prospect, but it's not like he was on the level where he could go anywhere he wanted. He had a limited offer sheet to begin with. Now, he in the news for felony charges related to a counterfeiting scheme and you have to wonder how many of those schools would still want him. you have to imagine that if he switches school it will be news and there are going to be headlines to the effect of, "PSU drops recruit as a result of felony charges, school X sees past it". Whatever the headlines actually say, there will be a perception problem for the new school.
Second, and most importantly, a school would have to have room for him. We are well past LOI day and most schools probably have all their spots accounted for on the roster for this upcoming season. In fact, some are probably trying to figure out how to get down to 85 by the fall.
Finally, I doubt he has much say in the matter at this point. Based on is piss poor history of making decisions, I bet the adults in his life are calling the shots on this one. At least I would hope.
I think when you look at his list of offers, who would still want him, and who has room for him, you'd find that he probably won't have a lot of good options and waiting a year to play at PSU will still probably look pretty good. Not for nothing, but it also puts him another year out of the post season ban.
I'm one that didn't really want any part of him after this, but OB's plan is a very good one if this is accurate. I would have no issue welcoming him to Penn State if he sucks it up, attends a military academy for a full year, and keeps his nose clean. If he can go a year without getting in trouble, that is a real testament to his chances of turning it around and we can all see that without PSU appearing to overlook his crimes or taking actual risk in the next 16 months.
This post was edited by spud358 15 months ago
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