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The Miami response is awesome. Just makes me ill to think Rodney runs my alma mater.
I'm interested to see how this plays out. It's being reported that Miami is being accused of Lack of Institutional Control (LOIC) and IIRC they would be considered a repeat offender. I'm not an expert but I think there is a distinct possibility that Miami could get the death penalty.
Dominate The State
If Miami gets the death penalty, the NCAA is doomed.. Miami already self sanctioned themselves for 2 seasons, if they get anything close to what we did, expect Miami to fight back hard since they have a lot of leverage, hence why I feel the NCAA will issue a slap on the wrist to avoid further litigation from yet another member institution..
NCAA has 2 choices.... Reduce sanctions across the board and hope schools pull back legal action OR go deeper in the rabbit hole and sanction teams like crazy
PENN STATE FOREVER
The problem is that Rodney does not run our Alma Mater. He is a puppet for the BOT. The Move Forward Coalition is the true head of the snake.
Funny, I read Shalala's response a few minutes ago and wanted to shoot an email telling Rodney I wish he has a pair like Donna obviously does.
Unfortunately this won't apply to us because of the Consent Decree and lack of will of fighting by the BOT and Erickson.
The only way our sanctions will get reduced is if the gov't, courts, or media make them do it.
Emmert sucks. The NCAA sucks. I want the to go down. But our real enemy is the BOT. The people who hired Louis Freeh and allowed him to grandstand and accuse with no freaking evidence. And even after we found out the Freeh report was a sham the BOT still doesn't care. They did this on purpose. It was a calculated move by Corbett, Frazier, Surma, Peetz, Masser, and possibly others.
You have to be careful. Very different issues that have happened from a public perception point of view...Sandusky incident vs. recruiting violations. You cannot compare the two in terms of well how they got off, etc. plus they have the benefit of mistakes made by the NCAA in their investigation. If Paterno's or some other third party was able to poke a bunch of holes and present new evidence as to what had in our case it would be a game-changer, but Miami will benefit from a botched investigation.
Miami had a mess on their hands and they knew it. It seems that once the current leadership got a hold on what happened they self reported and immediately sanctioned themselves. If the NCAA swoops in after conducting an unethical and possibly illegal investigation and hits them with the death penalty, what's the point in self reporting anything like this? seems that the cost benefit analysis is pretty clear that you continue to hide it as long as you can.
The NCAA as it is today is broken beyond repair. They don't have the training or resources to investigate or enforce their own rules. Emmert's solution is to ignore personal rights, protocol, ethics, and a number of other things to punish programs without meeting a minimal standard of facts or evidence. A risky approach for sure and I'd say with 3 or 4 pending law suits and the strong comments from Shalala, I'd say its circling back to kick him in the rear.
This post was edited by spud358 14 months ago
You are right very different issues. Miami broke NCAA rules. Penn State did not.
IMO this whole thing is making the NCAA a little uneasy because if things do go to court they will have to be a lot more transparent.
I can see Miami getting time served as to not go to another trial.
I can see the NCAA hanging on for dear life to the consent decree but if the PA vs The NCAA thing goes to court I see them making a plea and a lot of PSU sanctions being dropped.
It all has to do with The NCAA not wanting people snooping around their business. The Miami thing was pretty much an open and shut case and they botched it, they really don't need investogators thumbing around to why Auburn never got a penalty, UNC was found to be ok, and even Ohio State beinbg allowed to play in a Bowl last year and basically saying they would serve their penalty later.
IMO, that is the beauty of the PA lawsuit. They are accusing the NCAA of individually targeting PSU. What that means is that all other investigations will be fair game during discovery. the PA legal team can dig through any and all investigations under the rational that they are building a case that PSU was treated differently. Basically, if the PA suit gets to discovery, you can bet that these NCAA leaders and investigators from the USC, Miami, UNC, Auburn, OSU, and Oregon cases will be put under oath and asked all kinds of questions about their actions and decisions.
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