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THis is probably a crazy idea and cannot be done but just thinking?? Is there any way Penn State can fundraise money and open a few scholarship funds to help pay for a few walk-ons who come to PSU who also do well in school? Just wondering if this option can be explored and is a possibility?
I'm no expert but I believe that would be a big no-no. I was thinking about scholarships and if a D1 football team can allot ships like other sports like baseball, where the team gets 65 and get to hand them out partially, so give 1/2 scholarships to kids but as I'm writing this I figure the "only 15 new guys a year" thing might squash that. And idk the rules but I figure 65 scholarship players mean 65 players receiving any kind of scholarship. So my theory is dead...
This post was edited by blackshoes 18 months ago
I'm pretty sure that's where the whole "booster" thing would come into play. Then we'd get squashed even more.
"Whoever’s trying to kill me isn’t getting the job done. But one day, I’m going to punch that f___r in the face."
And also if that plan comes into fruition you can also expect that those individuals will certainly add some years of sanctions onto PSU. Anyone that thinks that's a good idea or anywhere close legal needs their brain checked. Doesn't matter if it "doesn't specifically say anything about it in the NCAA rule book".....they've already shown they don't need rules to punish us.
I don't believe it is an infraction because the players only benefit after they graduate, they are not getting any money while in school.
“Never trust a government that doesn't trust its own citizens with guns.”
Openly shopping incentives (basically promises) of cash for walk-ons after they graduate isn't an infraction? Forget the rule book....the NCAA didnt need infractions to punish us the first time. If this actually happened, I would HOPE the NCAA would punish any school that tried doing it accordingly.
There is no way in hell. No school has anything to do with it and its for people already graduated. They're not using it to recruit, and it's not promised to anyone. Any former, graduated walk on from any varsity sport from any college can apply for student loan relief. Hardly cash and openly shopping incentives which is what you are saying.
After people graduate the rules change. I met the MVP of the college world series when Texas won the title. He was on the NCAA cover the next year. Guess what? The NCAA gave him money for being on the cover because he had already graduated.
How would the anyone monitor this by the way? The schools can't monitor it or do anything about it, and the NCAA doesn't and can't monitor people who aren't under their jurisdiction anymore.
You may want to re-think this comment....
You are correct, There are very few exceptions to the rule that ANY scholarship counts as a football scholarship if the recipient plays football.
Simply put you will have ONLY 65 scholarship players on the squad when the sanctions take full effect. it won't matter what you call the scholarship, partial or full....ie partials count as fulls.
The exceptions I believe are for some non athletic State , Federal, and National scholarships
Some examples might be a scholarship (reduced tuition) available to the children of employees, An R.O.T.C. Scholarship, National merit scholarship. a State or county scholarship NOT for athletics.Veterans benefit scholarships etc.
Pell grants also don't count.
There is "wiggle" room in the 15 SCHOLARSHIP players per year, in that this number does not include "walk ons".
You could theoretically have 75 students try out and become team members...as long as they are not scholarship or "recruited" players.
This post was edited by FLY 18 months ago
Lol you realize this site is set up in SC, basically stated it was going to be for PSU football players (haven't looked at it since they first made the site), and included a small note at the end about any student being able to apply.....it's an open incentive for walk-ons to come to PSU (you really think the ppl that founded this are going to give this incentive to anyone other than PSU walk-ons??? Haha). Again, anyone with a brain that thinks the NCAA would look the other way must have a short memory of what they just did to us with no jurisdiction.
If a football player gets ANY financial aid, he immediately starts counting against the scholarship count. End of story.
The thing where walk-ons could receive financial assistance AFTER they graduate and have left the team, that is completely legal and legit. I think other schools/programs have similar funds set up.
What about federally funded financial aid, student loans, or academic grants that have nothing to do with sports?
Good point. My bad. Federally funded financial aid is fine.
Couldn't PSU load up on "Gray Shirts" in the final year of your sanctions to allow you to have a huge class that first year after sanctions? This is how the SEC gets so many players above the 25 limit....Arkansas one year signed 34 players, but had 9 of them "gray shirt"... which basically delays their entry into college thus not counting against that seasons numbers...If BOB had a group of recruits that he may Red shirt anyway, maybe get them to Gray shirt....
Just thinkin out of the box a little...
true - a lot of good players don't like to gray shirt but you are right in the last year that would be one way to sign more than 15, maybe sign 20 players with 5 gray-shirts
It was an idea bantered around a few months back. I seem to remember it is done at many other big programs.
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