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Well considering all those people chanting Joe's name like he was Caesar wearing their Freeh Stooges shirts with the 409 wins on them, I'd say a lot of people fall under this category.
The majority of the community doesn't get it or doesn't want to get it. The new NCAA shirt at the Student Bookstore comparing the NCAA to Communists in addition to the Freeh Stooges shirt (Wins on the back) and the rose pedals thrown at the feet of the Joe statue prior to it's upheaval lead many to believe that the only thing that seems to matter is Joe.
People were up in arms over anything that even remotely painted him in a bad light. The guy that drew the cartoon mocking Mohamed fared better than those that dare speak ill of the one and only Joe.
Might as well keep marching out Sue Paterno too for the empathy. Or bring out Scott to rally the troops one more time.
Heck get Michael Robinson to file a suit to get the wins restored. Because that's what matters in the end. That good ole Joe is the all time wins leader. Get that statue put back up and let it be like Mecca on Saturdays. Bow at its feet and kiss it's hand like he is the pope.
This post was edited by FireJayPa 23 months ago
My hatred of JayPa pales in comparison to my hatred of you
You have to be mentally challenged to make such a statement. What an ignorant half-wit you are.
This post was edited by PSU_DG 23 months ago
I got excited when I first saw this topic posted on here. I can't believe I forgot how stupid all these people on the BOT are - they just keep running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
Didn't they recently hold a meeting just to announce a vote wasn't necessary? Now they are going to vote and make fools of themselves (for the 1,000th time).
I give a crap about the wins record because it has no relevance to this whole situation. Emmert messed up when he included 1998 in the situation when the justice system failed us, not Joe, the University or the BoT's. We'll agree to donate the $60 million to the DA's who just showed up the doorstep with their hands out.
It is easy to understand why those in the Penn State family who did not think any sanctions against the football program were appropriate are in a fighting mood and not ready to move on. It is also easy to understand why the coach wants the focus on the future, not the past. Whatever the BOT does this weekend, I think the best interests of bringing the community together will best be served by bringing on new trustees not connected to the recent past or publicly identified with acceptance of the sanctions camp.
The students that rioted downtown after dear leader was fired disagree with you on this one.
The 100+ people that died as retribution for those cartoons say that you are a fucking moron.
They were "rioting" over the future removal of Joe's wins and not poor media coverage, a rush to judgement where no facts were presented, and Joe not even being asked to address the BOT? Thanks for clearing up their riotous reasoning for us FJP.
At that point there were no NCAA sanctions to which to compare the knee jerk reaction of firing of Joe. My God, you are thick.
Look, there are plenty of us that didn't like Joe Paterno the football coach (any longer), but are still objective enough to see/know that his firing was nothing more than knee jerk act of scapegoating.
Open your eyes. It's not all or nothing WRT Paterno.
I see it was mentioned earlier that the votes casted by the BoT are not accesable to the public. Has anyone ever attempted to obtain these votes under the Freedom of Information Law?
Seriously you are completely worthless. You have zero grasp on the real issue(s) here. Go over to the national board where they can all pat you on the back for your "enlightened" view. You have nothing worthwhile to offer this discussion.
None of the money came from the Second Mile.
Some of the money came from Second Mile Board members (mostly one big check from Bob Poole).
A significant amount came from family members and people who worked for companies that board members were on.
The way the author of the original story came up with $600K+ is pure BS. For example, some guy on the Second Mile board wrote a check for something like $200 to the Second Mile. However, he works for a large firm in Philly and hundreds of other people at his firm contributed tens of thousands of dollars in total to Corbett's campaign, so the article somehow counts those thousands as being Second Mile $$$. That's BS. I'm willing to bet that most of the people at his firm never heard of the Second Mile at the time they wrote checks to Corbett. The author did everything he possibly could to tangentially connect Corbett donations to the Second Mile. He succeeded because now everyone seems to think the Second Mile was writing huge checks to Corbett when the truth is much much different.
I worked for IBM. If I were a Second Mile board member, using the author's logic, every dollar IBM employees gave to Corbett would have been considered Second Mile dollars. That's absurd.
This post was edited by UncleLar 23 months ago
Penn State is exempt from the law.
Doesn't anyone get it? You cannot take the NCAA to court and win...they are not a government entity. They're most like a country club in which all members have to abide by the club charter. Ask Alabama, who tried to fight their NCAA sanctions years ago and lost, time and time again. Heck, they had alumni fighting in court years after the sanctions had been lifted. This dog don't hunt. Efforts to fight the NCAA will only serve to draw Emmert's ire and possibly result in the death penalty. The Board of Trustees are trying to move on and AVOID the implementation of the death penalty. The only chance Penn State would have to mitigate the severity of the sanctions would be if the federal goverment would step in and some publicity-hungry legislator would threaten the NCAA. Don't count on that though because Penn State is now viewed as the Darth Vader of college football. Just accept the 4 years of sanctions and look forward to 2016 and beyond.
Please read this article. The court overturned NCAA by-laws and re-instated players. NCAA has lost in court, regardless of them being a private organization. Get your facts straight before you speak.
This post was edited by Accustus 23 months ago
Guys, Coach BO'B saying "Let's move forward" and all that jazz is just coach speak. He can't let his players worry about something that is out of their control. All he can do is try and get his players to worry about the future. So many players stayed and he needs to show them they were right to stay and that everything is about winning going forward. He wants to ignore appeal rumors and all that, and for obvious reasons. All he can do as a coach of this team is think forward because he has no control over how this will play out.
Trust me, those comments don't (in the slightest) mean that he accepts the sanctions, thinks they were remotely fair, or doesn't care about the history of PSU.
Wasn't our "Scum Bag Governor the one that recommended Freed to the BOT's, everything he has done stinks to the high heavens. Where was his morality when he sat on the case while other victims were assaulted. His excuse, I didn't want to hinder the imvestigation, easy cop out. He knew he wouldn't get elected Governor if he proceeded with this before elections.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by pipedope 23 months ago
“The resolution the board will consider states "the process followed by the (NCAA) was unfortunate and the punitive sanctions are difficult," and refers to the consent decree as "binding."
The outcome of Sunday's meeting seems almost certain, sources told "Outside the Lines," because two straw polls about whether to appeal the sanctions were taken by a quorum of trustees during a conference call Tuesday.
That call may have constituted an illegal board meeting, given the votes taken, the number of trustees present and the lack of public notice given about the call -- a requirement of the Pennsylvania Sunshine Act.
Only a few of the more than 20 trustees on the Tuesday call said they wished to appeal the NCAA sanctions.”
What are you talking about??? Get over YOUR obsession with Paterno....Fight for PSU or get out of the way.
This post was edited by TpaFan 23 months ago
I keep seeing these arguments.
They are like a country club. The members have to abide by the charter.
They aren’t a state actor, so due process isn’t required.
It’s like a contract between the members.
People act like private clubs can't be sued by their members. Like their only choice is to take it or quit.
But I wonder…Emmert and the executive committee are the members’ representatives, right? Making sure the members follow the rules.
But what happens when Emmert and the executive committee don’t follow the rules, or provide the required process? Then the affected member/contract party isn’t getting what it paid for. Penn State has the right to have the rules properly applied to it. That didn’t happen.
But it’s all academic. The BOT will ratify the consent decree on Sunday. Before calling the meeting they took straw votes on Tuesday to be sure they had the necessary votes, so it’s a done deal. The outcome is predetermined. The fix is in. However you want to say it. Once the consent decree is duly ratified, the possibility of a successful court challenge becomes just about nil. Emmert and the executive committee will have gotten away with violating the NCAA bylaws for a moment of sanctimonious grandstanding, and lots of innocent people will suffer the consequences.
How many times can they piss all over the sunshine law? They fact they say there's more transparency is bullshit. Outright bullshit.
The only thing thats obvious is that this board does not give one shit about what any Penn Stater thinks or cares about.
This post was edited by The Heel 23 months ago
Interesting. Does PSU receive funding from the State? If so, I would think that the taxpayers would have rights to information.
See the link.
Access to records and potentially critical evidence in the sex abuse scandal is restricted because Penn State has a special exemption under Pennsylvania’s Right to Know Law.
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