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That par save there should end it.
Yeah its over.
Barnes ran out of gas towards the end, and Tiger is letting his focus slip.
Wi and that retarded Stack and Tilt can't get it done under pressure because the timing has to be nearly perfect every time or you basically shank it. It's a formality, as Phil will probably birdie 18 because he still hits the ball a mile.
This post was edited by Andrew Dzurita 20 months ago
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
Tiger. LOL. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
“We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill
Why didnt tiger putt out before phils birdie attempt? They always putt out so the leader/winner has the stage.
Phil has beat Tiger five of the last six times they were paired together. I'm not so sure I'd call that being owned for your entire career.
The title of this thread should be changed to "Phil". He'll be back to missing 3 footers when the US Open rolls around though. Really want him to win that tournament more than any other, as does he I'm sure.
Tiger leads 14 to 4. Owns him......
True, but Tiger still won more majors since '04, and obviously the career track record isn't even close.
Phil has always played second fiddle to Tiger, even when he was at his peak. Once Tiger fell, he never got number one and he hasn't won anything significant since.
Tiger and Phil aren't exactly friends.
You should look at the time they were paired together for the Ryder Cup. Hilarious.
They can't stand each other. They were "rivals" when Tiger was at his peak, and neither of them are nice guys.
At the end of the day, who cares? Phil still cashes his million, and Tiger still didn't win. Doesn't change anything.
Not lately - which is what my point was.
With the slobbering love affair that ESPIN has with Tiger I find great pleasure in his failures.
"I like your head, it's a good look." - James Franklin, to a bald reporter asking a question.
Its not just ESPN, its the entire world of golf.
Golf usually has a face to rally around, and for about a decade it was Tiger.
I still love tiger. One of my best moments was being on the 18th watching him win the AT&T national a few years ago.
Tiger's lower body timing and his left arm are screwing his swing up off the tee. One of the first things the guy who gives me lessons told me was, keep that left leg as still as possible, and let your left arm pull the club through. Not only is he seemingly getting out in front of his left leg, his right arm is driving the club, which causes his left arm to fight.
After a series of knee injuries, he cannot bang the ball as far as he could, but even in his hayday, I think he was only a 320 guy. Dustin Johnson, who is just stupid long hits 320 and it's a bad ball. If he ever gets his approach shots down, look out.
For my money, the best swing in the game still is Ernie Els and Freddy Couples.
His biggest problems are his weak knees and the garbage that was Hank Haney's golf swing.
Having been to courses he's played before, and seeing where he hit the ball with the older shafts and drivers, (about 330-340) the distance part isn't true. When he started going to Butch Harmon, he stopped swinging so hard. The biggest thing Butch taught Tiger was control, that even though you can hit the ball 340 doesn't mean you should. It's better to swing easy and control the ball flight than to knock the hell out of it and then go find it (like Phil used to).
Distance was never Tiger's problem.
And Johnson's problem isn't his game, it's the six inches between his ears where the game is played. He can hit every shot in the book, the guy is a great athlete with amazing flexibility and swing plane. There is literally nothing he can't do with the golf ball. He needs to figure out how to finish. I think after his two wins he's figuring it out, but we'll see.
EDIT: Agreed about Freddy and Ernie. Beautiful golf swings.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Andrew Dzurita 20 months ago
agree about DJ.
I think Sean has Tiger on the right track. Still a work in progress.
Just watched the replay on the Golf Channel. The three putt on 18 exemplified why Tiger will never be the same. He may become a great player but he will never be dominant again. What used to separate him from everyone else was his mental toughness. He used to intimidate the rest of the field and made them feel uncomfortable so that they made mistakes. No-one is afraid of him anymore. It seems like they want to take him on and relish the opportunity to beat him. Only now, a lot of guys are just as talented as he is.
Difference between now and say, 2001, or 2004, is that the talent level on tour is so much better. It has always been hard to win on Tour, but with the sheer number of guys under 30 it has almost gotten absurd.
There's simply no way to dominate right now, because there are too many very, very good young guys out there with a lot of hunger, and a solid collection of veterans that are making up for lost time with Tiger. The crazy thing is that Tiger still plays like a top 50 player in the world, but the fact that he isn't dominating makes him seem like a failure. He played some damn good golf this weekend, he just didn't make the 20 footers like we're used to him making, so it seemed like he failed.
He always plays well at Augusta, the course is set up perfectly for him. I expect a top ten, with the slight chance that he wins if he starts rolling the rock.
he missed a 30' by 1 rotation, he missed a 25' uphill breaking to the left by 1 rotation. Outside of the last 4 on the front, I thought Tiger played well (I missed 16, 17, 18).
Phil was just absolutely on fire. He made a 28' putt, downhill that most people would have flown right by the hole.
Some may disagree, but yesterday instilled even more doubt into his mind. Doubt = no major championship. However, Mickleson probably wishes the Masters was next week.
You can point to near misses in every round for every golfer. He neither hit it well enough or putt well enough to win. Every pro on tour can shoot a low round on any given day. The great ones are just more consistent. Tiger at his best (almost) never had bad rounds. He is now Freddie Couples post-back injury. Immensely talented but good for one bad round a tournament that will limit his opportunities to win. Even if he gets more consistent, the competition is now too good for him to dominate again, as has been discussed.
I agree that he really didn't play all that bad, he just lost his focus towards the end of the round.
I think it's a testament to his talent that he can still compete like he has when his mental demeanor is so upside down. He has always had a horrible temper, but people let him get away with it because for a time he dominated golf more thoroughly than anybody since Tom Morris and Tom Morris Jr. He's done things like this before, when he was out of contention on Sunday he would power walk the course and take virtually no time over his shots, and tried to finish in 2:30 or 3 hours. Yesterday it was a bigger deal than normal because he's had a long dry spell and he was in the second to last group.
Tiger's focus slipped when he started throwing an internal hissy fit, and he got down on himself for not competing. JMO, of course.
I still think he plays well at the Masters. The only course he plays better than Augusta is St. Andrews, so he should finish pretty well. A win isn't likely, but it's certainly not out of the question.
Sorry for ^ length.
If Tiger keeps "finding" his game, others win continue to win; should have never left Butch. Phil will Match Jack at Augusta for most wins at the Masters. Tiger may get one more, if he's lucky. Tiger won't break Jack's majors record. He won't win as much because there is so much good up-and-coming talent. And frankly, Tiger isn't intiimidating anymore.
I don't like Tiger, never did. He's arrogant, has a piss-poor attitude when his game's not on...tosses/drops clubs, swears whether it's a bad shot or a great shot. Hasn't Freddie been fined for dropping an F-bomb on TV? Why hasn't Tiger?
He hit out of a bunker yesterday and stabbed his club into the ground...disrespectful to the course and game. We all have bad days on the course, but Tiger should be held to a higher standard (as all pros) because the camera is on him and he's supposedly a role model to kids. I'm not perfect, but I hope he's not a role model to mine (if they knew the person, not the golfer..well the unsportsmanlike conduct on the course). He's not personable at all. He said, after the "incident" that he's going to try to change...so far, the same old Tiger...and it's been over two years.
With that said, I do like what he's done for golf as far as popularity.
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