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This lol +1000000
WE ARE! And we will always be...
It's liek youre in my mind lol +1
True. Caldwell is an offensive coordinator again though, he got promoted midseason. Love that guy.
Norv Turner gets fired everywhere he goes but teams line up to give him another chance. He is the Kim Kardashian of football, he's been everywhere.
If you can be a head coach you'll get hired. Quit crying.
PENN STATE FOREVER
That post is not someone crying. He just said progress was being made... Id agree with that. And me saying that there is still a long way to go isn't crying. It's stating facts.
Lovie Smith has shown he can be a head coach in the league, why hasn't he been hired?
Only progress needed is for people to stop crying and calling it unfair. When that happens progress is made. No racist hiring happened at all. Best man for the job got it.
Lovie Smith is still unemployed. I call BS
Making no attempt whatsoever to see the other side or speak rationally. The Philafan way.
Could be his lack of playoff experiences, lack of jobs he wanted, asked for too much power or money. Maybe he isn't good enough?
Where did I say that the owners were racist?
He said he only wanted a HC job.... He was mediocre. That'll happen.
This thread began as a very good discussion in which bluey and rmj both presented valid reasonable points, then philafan gets involved and brings the discussion down to lowest common denominator talk radio style arguments. Lock this thread up because its gonna get ugly. I can see the "Philly" in Philafan.
This post was edited by ezcheez2000 15 months ago
You can run from the truth all you want..... Best person gets hired regardless. Does not matter who they are.
No one is crying, no one said anything is unfair. Just discussing the situation at hand. If you can't have a discussion like an adult then just don't talk. It's no good just assuming people's attitudes and resorting to name calling because you can't articulate a valid point.
Yeah people are upset, but no one in here is crying or calling owners racist. At least read our posts before responding.
LOL I lost my bet. I was thinking it would have been by noon but i'm 3 hours late.
Not true at all. That's not just the NFL, that's everywhere. There's always bias in any selection process. It's like saying notre dame was the best team to play in the Title game based on their résumé compared to Oregons or another SEC team. It simply isn't true.
Doesn't mean owners or racist, just means that opportunities are not as abundant and every selection process is as equal as people would like to think.
So the owners aren't the problem and no one is upset..... So then we all agree the right person as chosen by the teams was hired regardless of color?
If not then what is the issue?????
He won 10 games, he is unemployed. Andy Reid won 4, and Philly was a dumpster fire, he was hired the first week...
Rational argument. Hmmm let's see what phila responds with lol
Terrible comparison. Reid has proven he can be a successful HC in the NFL. They certainly didn't hire him because of the last two seasons.
So what is the bias then?
Lovie Smith appeared in one SB... So did Andy Reid... Listed below are their records. Lovie has 12 yrs exp, Reid has 14. Also look at their recent seasons... Enough said. Terrible comparison? SMH
81-63 W-L, 3-3 W-L in playoffs, 0 SB won, Bears/Rams 2001-2012, born in TX 1958, died 0
130-93-1 W-L, 10-9 W-L in playoffs, 0 SB won, Eagles 1999-2012, born in CA 1958, died 0
? I am black and think BOB is one of the top college coaches in the game. I also think Tomlin is a great coach. One is white, one is black... However, when you examine the number of coaches in higher positions (HC, DC, OC) in college and the NFL, the numbers indicate that there are far fewer coaches in those positions, period. Then you look at the coaches with good reputations and records and how they are treated... there appears to be a difference. You can ignore it if you want, but Herm Edwards never got another coaching job, yet was praised by HS coaches... Just an example, but there are others. Charlie Strong is doing a hell of a job at Louisville... Was he even nominated for any of the COY awards? Again, this isn't 1968. But we still have to look at the numbers and facts. A long way to go, especially in a sport where so many position coaches are black... I am really not understanding what you are saying. Have you brought any hard facts to this argument? Any real examples? Or are you just continually saying "stop crying" and "there is no problem" without bringing anything else to the table?
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