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This smells like Darth Vader (Corbett) throwing the Emperor Palaptine (Emmertt) into the depths of the Death Star (US Legal System) ....
PENN STATE FOREVER
Exactly. George Mitchell and company gets half a million a year to do a job that isn't even needed. I'm sure the assclowns handing out the money will get their cut as well. Hopefully the Spanier, Curley, and Shultz trials will have the state push to to invalidate all the NCAA sanctions. Wishful thinking I know.
The trials don't, and shouldn't, have any effect on the NCAA rulings. The NCAA does not prosecute their members on legal grounds but on the agreed upon rules and statutes. While many, including myself, don't believe they followed that set of statutes the ambiguos ethics clause(s) allowed for them to punish under the jurisdiction. Unfortunately ethics clauses have strong legal standing in legal challenges.
I doubt there will be a trial for Curley/Schultz/Spanier... The AG office screwed up that case beyond repair
Elected. First ever dem elected to the office. Went to elected position in ~1980. She won 70/30 in nov election, on her primary promise of investigating the sansusky investigation.
Her margin of victory was larger than obama's in the state.
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Meh. Article said very little concrete outside of emphasizing that PSU is not involved in the lawsuit. My guess is that this is all about putting the money into PA, rather than elsewhere. Seriously doubt they challenge the actual sanctions.
Would bet the NCAA quickly agrees to keep the funds in PA.
If they don't, NCAA runs the risk of being labeled a state actor and open themselves up to more law suits. Personally, would love to see discovery so that Emmert and Ed Ray have to come clean on their "negotiations."
Also, lookIng for some poetic justice in PA using the NCAA's Mitchell report on PSU as evidence of the true culture of success with honor at PSU.
NCCA, how does this taste? Anything that makes them sweat is a good thing. Plus, not PSU money going after them.
How can it not have an effect? The NCAA says it punished PSU for the crimes of these individuals. If they are found not guilty, what are they punishing us for? It may not make a difference to the NCAA, but it might in the media and realm of public opinion. And those two thing seem to trump the entire NCAA investigation/punishment process.
I wonder if Emmert is playing the Fiddle as his empire crumbles.
They allowed him in practices and games after they knew there was an investigation into his actions. That can be a violation of an ethic clause for them allowing them to sanction Penn State. Furthermore, their investigation doesn't have to prove anyone legally guilty, just going against the ethics clause(s) the NCAA has stated Penn State violated. In their eyes the Freeh Report did that, and even if the NCAA was told to go do their own, it would almost assuredly come to the same conclusion.
The media and public opinion has made up their mind.
So yeah, not really going to matter.
I tend to agree that this is simply a play to save face and votes for Corbett. Prob main goal will be to keep $$ here in PA. I also agree that he will not want to lose this fight so he will throw some serious power at it. Also must feel they have a solid chance of winning whatever they are planning or they would move with it. Lets hope its substantial for PSU and maybe get some scollies and bowls back. This cost the state of PA a boatload in dollars across many fronts... I'll be rooting for Corbett to make this as right as possible before we vote his lying ass out.
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-- LJ, Sr.
Funny how this comes out on New Years Day. The state is trying to see how the public will react on a small scale before going big. Sounds very political.
They allowed a man cleared by a police investigation into their facilities. How is that unethical? If anything, that made it them more unlikely to report whatever MM told them in 2001. The Freeh Report is a BS opinion piece and PSU was forced to sign the consent decree under duress (threat to ban PSU football). Not sure why you think the NCAA is in such a strong position here. So yeah, it just might.
Ummm the coaches and administrators knew that Sandusky was under a GJ investigation in 2011 for child molestation charges and still allowed him access to facilities and games, as well as the players. Not to mention former coaches and even Sandusky himself, who has since been convicted, have admitted to him showering with boys int he facilities. That could all easily be validated for sanction by an ethics clause.
PSU did sign it. They did reaffirm it. They did commission the Freeh Report, which isn't at all meant to be a legal document.
I don't think it was in the right in sanctions. But that ethics clause is strong and broad. Not to mention the member institution already agreed to it. They'll settle to keep the money in PA. I'll be interested to see what else the lawsuit wants, if anything.
He was allowed after the 01 incident too mane.
“If you remember me, then I don't care if everyone else forgets.” ― Haruki Murakami
This suggests that Republicans crossed over to vote for Kane. Where do most Republicans live in PA? In the center part of the state and in the Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs. Where do most PSU fans live? In those same parts of the state. Corbett knows that he can't get reelected without strong support in those parts of the state. IMO this is all politics but if it helps PSU, I'm happy about it.
The incumbent AG, Linda Kelly was not elected but rather appointed when former AG Corbett was elected Governor.
October 12, 2013. PSU 43 - UM 40 (4 OT). Unfortunately this fan wasn't around long enough to see it!
They had no choice to sign it. Maybe the next president has a tiny pair of balls. Things change. The more challenges the NCAA faces the weaker their position becomes.
The news scrolled on ESPN2 during the NW/MSU game.
Even if this ethics clause holds that much weight...Does it really justify the $60 million dollar fine, taking scholarships away from kids (its not like those scholarships are shifted to another school, it is 20 less kids that will be on scholarship/yr for 4 years), punishing kids who were in grade-school when this happened, taking wins away from student-athletes from 98-11 that had no involvement whatsoever, toe chain-reaction punishment in the community due to the sanctions (businesses, applications to the school, etc..) giving out the harshest penalty since the death penalty for actions that were not even NCAA related, and so forth?
So you believe if we allowed the NCAA to investigate, like we should have instead of handing our balls over to them, we'd still be hit with this massive, unjustified penalty? I doubt it, because then we'd have some leaders with balls who would actually stand up for our university and not let other people tell us who we are.
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As soon as they were in the same party, the elected/appointed distinction didn't matter nearly as much. The Governor was obviously involved at that point, rather than a split venture, which could have more interesting political backdrop.
In short, yes. I didn't think they'd be that harsh if they chose to sanction (which they did) but after that it was up to the NCAA.
Furthermore, the Freeh Report was the right move. The school needed to internally report, and the report was for much important things than football namely academic integrity and some sense of transparency to the general public. I don't agree with a lot in it, and it turned out quite a bit like I thought, but that was the right move to have a hired consultant investigate.
I see you avoided the whole Sandusky on premiseses in 2011, I would have too if I couldn't win.
Also, whether they were "forced" to sign it or not they still signed it. They then reaffirmed it.
I find this hard to believe as well. The punishment was decided on by the executive committee which is not full of legal scholars. Numerous ex-infractions committee chairmen stated the NCAA shouldn't be involved. You'd think the current infractions committee would share a similar view. The executives probably read the Freeh report summary and decided they needed to act while the media outrage was at its peak.
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