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Reading the tweet & NCAA rule my thought is it counts.... Why say 67 if the true # is 64??? Either way quitting to just be a student is fine. Give up your ship. I doubt he had the grades to earn it.
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If 67 was the total mentioned, I don't think they count, unless some of the walk-ons are no longer receiving scholarships (which we already determined was untrue, I believe).
Before Stanko left, there were 67 on scholarship, and that didn't count Royer or Graham.
Wow this is awful. does this mean we have to be down to 62 guys next year?
I don't think they count towards the total either.
I don't want to sound harsh here because he's a great kid from a great family that came to PSU in spite of everything going on, but he just didn't have it. Sometimes young kids come in and it's clear they have a lot of work to get where they need to be, but sometimes they are so far from that point that it's better to read the writing on the wall and move on.
Right - i don't think he was ever going to see the field much
As I recall Stanko was a great student in HS and had terrific grades. From all accounts he has been a great student at PSU. In fact it appears that he is smart enough to figure out that he can continue to go to school at PSU and concentrate 100% of his efforts on the academic side of things while still keeping his free ride.
Yea I have no problem with these kids using the transfer rule to find a better opportunity to play sooner but these kids who just quit but still keep their scholarship really piss me off. You got a scholarship for athletics, if you are no longer participating in athletics because it is your choice (not injured or some other legit reason) then there should be no way in hell they get to keep their scholarship.
Every time these sanctions show their stupid head makes me hate the NCAA even more. I hated them long before these sanctions for personal reasons (Eligibility Issues - Transfered from 1-AA school to lower division and wouldn't let me play) but now it just makes me even more angry.
That is what I am hoping... we had 3 walk-ons who were going to earn scholarships next year (Lehman, Della-Valle and Keiser). Every scholarship chart I have seen didn't include Royer or Graham...
I don't know what to think now.
I feel the same, but I won't blame the kids for taking advantage of the rules in place. The NCAA clearly tried to create a strike package that would have the same effect as the DP. They wanted players to transfer or quit playing football so the PSU program couldn't survive. Frankly, if not for the absolutely heroic efforts of the 2012 senior class and OB it might have worked.
If it turns out he is going to count against the 65 limit for the next 3 years, I might feel differently though...
This article says royer, graham, and now stanko count against the limit. dumb rule
A weblog by The Morning Call about Penn State Nittany Lions' Football
I'm going to keep assuming they don't count until we hear an official source claim otherwise.
I like being optimistic.
Totally rude and a slap in the face to the team if it's true. I expected it from royer because he's a jerk, but wasn't seeing this coming.
You really trust the media to get anything right?
I'll wait to hear from the 24/7 staff on this.
Over/Under on how long it takes ESPN to run a front page story on this? It's 12:30 EST now, I'll put it the O/U at 1:30 EST. I'll take the under.
I have no idea what the rule is but, logically, why wouldn't they count against the limit? Playing devil's advocate, BOB could just "cut" as many kids as he wanted but let them stay on scholarship to manage his numbers better...if he chose to. I'm not saying he would do it, but the opportunity would be there.
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my question is, since we aren't limited to 65 til 2014, couldn't 20 or so walk-ons receive scholarships for this upcoming academic year??
Pretty sure they don't, look at Bills' post. BOB probably sat down with him and talked about where he was, Anthony wanted to stay at school, no one is hurt. I can't blame the kid at all, if you aren't cut out for it (physically or mentally) then it just isn't worth taking up the spot on the team, for anyone.
The only good thing is that Graham and Royer SHOULD be on pace to graduate next year (just going by them joining PSU 3 years ago). If they do, they won't have an effect on the 65 limit.
I'm assuming on this one that BOB, in their one-on-one, nudged him in this direction.
For those of you killing this kid for keeping his scholarship, I would honestly ask you what you would do if you elected to stop playing football, focus on academics and had the opportunity to keep the scholarship. Which one of us would intentionally take on all of that debt if we had a choice? I say good luck to him.
I am certainly not clear on what it means for our scholarship number going forward, but regardless, I am mad at the NCAA for being a bunch of A$$hats and not a kid getting an education. He could easily have been "nudged" toward the door to free up room in the future. I dont know. Even more, he wants a PSU education. He isnt transferring to go somewhere else. He wants to be here, just not on the team for whatever his reasons are. Get off his back. We have no idea what the conversation between he and BoB was and we have no idea what his motivations for leaving the team are. But in the end, he wants to be at PSU and wants a PSU education.
The kids who quit do not count against the 65 cap. That makes absolutely zero sense. Why would the kids who stay count but the kids who transfer wouldn't?
They may count as scholarship players now, but we aren't limited in anyway on the number of scholarships we can have right now.
“We’re doing things we couldn’t imagine,” says safety Stephen Obeng-Agyapong. “But we’re doing them together.”
I wish all people well but him being a student at PSU does nothing for me.... I am a big fan of the football program. You play there I care about you. You leave I could careless about you just don't hurt what you left. Sounds like he may do that. Simply put if he isn't helping me why should I be forced to help him?
Agree. If it was a mutual decision and he wasn't going to play...so be it. Hope he enjoys the rest of him time in college and get his degree.
"One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."
He owes you nothing. Get over it.
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