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the entire Freeh report. Golic, Smith, Cowhere, Bayless, Van Pelt...etc. Yet they formed such strong opinions on the matter. They will not read the Paterno report either people, it's too long and they don't care enough to. What the Paterno's are doing right now is pretty much the only thing they can do. Get on the air as much as possible to try and point out the errors in Freeh's report. That in addition to the lawsuit that will be coming will be how they fight this battle. The news media is much to lazy to read a 250 page report that doesn't pertain to them when someone holds a PC summarizing it. Hopefully the Paterno's can keep this up as it will die down in a few days until they release the lawsuit I would imagine.
This post was edited by LaJollaLion 14 months ago
"One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."
The opnly problem I have is they are not pointing out the gross misleading of the investigation AND the Freeh Report.
I think those are more legs to stand on publically than "Joe did what he was leaglly allowed to do."
Just me but it seems to me the report and these appearances just look like a "He said/She said" defense. There are plenty more things out there to bring up.
Hopefully Jay takes up the remaining 45 minutes of The Herd.
Most if not all of these media clowns care nothing about truth. It's all about sensationalization and shock value. What's sad is a large part of the general population is too dumb to realize this. I listened to Mike & Mike because I wanted to hear what Jay had to say but I won't listen to Cowturd and likely won't listen to what any of the other idiots at espn have to say.
This post was edited by Sloepoke20 14 months ago
Just my two cents but the only way the narrative will change is if mainstream media outlets like 60 minutes,NBC nightly news etc. pick this up and evaluate it. If they do then ESPN and all the others will follow.
The general public and most media members don't care enough about any one subject to read the 250 page Freeh report and then the 180 page Paterno report.
Would you read a 150 page report about the UNC academic scandal if it was published?? 99.9% of this message board wouldn't read it but that wouldn't stop everyone from posting about it.
I would think if I was going to have a guest on my show on such an important topic that I may take the time on Sunday to read up on the subject. That is just me I guess.
You don't see a difference between a fan not reading it and a journalist covering the story and writing articles/discussing it on the air to the public not reading it?
The media is a bit wreckless in that sense. They don't realize that people will not read the reports, but go off of the 2 minute sound clips they produce.
I don't think there is much of a difference. It is the responsibility of the report author to write a summary that gets across all the points the entire report offers. You really think Mike and Mike should have read the entire 180 pages in less than 24 hours for just a 30 minute segment of their four hour long show? It is unrealistic to expect that from anyone.
Also, there really wasn't anything groundbreaking in the report that is really going to interest the general public or really open up people's eyes.
Sadly I don't expect any journalist to actually research an issue they're reporting on anymore, and I especially don't expect a sports journalist to do so. Outside of live sporting events, ESPN's programming is nothing more than TMZ Sports.
Facts are irrelevant, it's all about ratings. Why read something when you can just yell and scream about child abuse and 99% of your listeners will agree with you?
Some of you take this statement the wrong way. I see Golic as representing the general listening audience. He isn't the brightest, but he played, and gives the common guys perspective. No one thinks Golic is an expert in anything except being "common".
The common guy, the public, will not read the Paterno report. They did not read the Freeh report. Doubt they even read the summaries.
So dealing with a simpleton like Golic is like dealing with the public. Its good that he is there. Refuting his opinions is like refuting the public perception.
Cowherd is a different story. He purposefully acts the fool.
Exactly, like they say, "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story"
C'mon, that's a pretty harsh comment against TMZ!
It only took Freeh 30 minutes to read, so I would imagine Golic could get it done in 24 hours.
I for one would love to read that report. But i don't think you're wrong on what would happen.
LaJolla: quality post.
I would willing to bet a years subscription you havent read the report if you say soemthing like this: "Also, there really wasn't anything groundbreaking in the report "
There were definitely some important info in the report...One of them being the notes Baldwin took meeting with Joe Paterno prior to Joe's GJ testimony.
"Whoever’s trying to kill me isn’t getting the job done. But one day, I’m going to punch that f___r in the face."
Exactly...I was going to say that if are to be considered a professional..well, you should probably read it
Suck It Emmert!! and "Sorry for not being sorry for being a Penn Stater" - Philafan
People talk out their ass about things they don't know anything about all the time, every hour of every day. 95% of the general public/media does this (and more like 98% of the message board population). It's always been this way. It's human nature. It's just worse now because of the twitter culture that has been created over the past decade. It's not right. It's sad. I wish it were different. But it is what it is. This is why, despite finding it incredibly frustrating, I don't completely condemn the media/general public. Their response was was forgone conclusion the moment the Freeh Report was released. I do condemn some of the "journalists" who generally claim to hold themselves to a higher standard. I strongly condemn Emmert as he had a responsibility to at least pretend to be fair, and he failed catastrophically. But ultimately I lay the blame at Freeh's feet. He presented a not even well reasoned argument as fact and held himself up as the ultimate impartial judge. And he was in an extraordinary position of power and responsibility. To say he simply failed does not properly describe the scope of his disgraceful actions. If he had simply reported the facts and left out the absurd inflammatory supposition in the report then this whole thing would have played out in a COMPLETELY different manner.
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