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Interesting article on Redd and the others that have transferred, how they've all struggled and how that may effect future decisions to transfer.
I can't get this link to upload. http://blogs.thetimes-tribune.com/pennstate/index.php/2012/09/17/silas-redd-his-plight-and-its-effect-on-the-future-of-penn-states-program/#.UFhs4wTV8hA.twitter
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by rck127 22 months ago
I really thought that the sanctions said that when a player actually played this season that they then couldn't transfer.
The more I read the more I believe I am completley wrong.
Just another crock of ............it is almost like they are a Jr. College Team from a recrutiing standpoint.
They can't transfer and play this year. They can transfer and sit out the rest of the season however.
I think Dog's point was that after this season, and up until Spring '13 practice they can still transfer.
lol at fortt, left because he was mad about not starting this year. REDSHIRTS
This post was edited by PSUJames 22 months ago
Actually Fortt always planned to redshirt because of his knee injury issues. Indications were he wasn't sure he would be able to stay and not play here due to the obvious depth issues so he left to go somewhere that could afford to have him redshirt.
As to the article, it makes some very good points. Its still a long season and Redd could certainly start putting up big numbers at any point but I expect the coaches to use these as cautionary tales when dealing with the potential exodus before next season's camp.
So let me get this straight... Fort left because they wouldn't let him RS? And the staff knowing if they didn't let him RS he would just transfer. That doesn't make much sense to me. The depth issues would play into Fortt's hand I would think. We have enough depth to get through this season... next year and the year after the problems. I just think you had a group of kids with Brown, Silas and Fortt that weren't committed to the program. Or maybe with the circus swirling just wanted out.
First, the Fortt thing is just an excuse. He and his family could have made it clear that they wanted him to redshirt this year and I think PSU's staff would have obliged. Especially when you consider our depth behind the starting group. That's just an excuse, plain and simple. He left once all his buddies left.
As for Redd, he will likely have a decent year at USC like many of the 4/5 star backs USC has had in the last decade. But guess how many of those guys are playing in the NFL right now. 2. Bush and McKnight. There is a looong list of other guys that were studs that played at USC and aren't in the NFL right now. Now how many former USC QBs are in the NFL? At least 3 that I can think of (Palmer, Cassell, and Sanchez) and there will be another (Barkley) next year. And how many WRs? Lots.
USC is and will continue to be a pass first offense and Redd will continue to get limited opportunities to showcase his skills. I see Redd finishing the year with maybe 700-800 yards rushing. I think at PSU he's a lock to get at least 1200 and at least 6-8 more touches a game. He was a fool for buying into Kiffin's snake oil and I personally hope in 2 years he is working with Broderick Green (aka, not in the NFL). I think he thought he had found lightning in a bottle. A national championship caliber team where he'd get to be the next Reggie Bush (he certainly has a similar skillset). Too bad he's playing for Kiffin and not Carroll and doesn't have Bush's OL. What happens if the NFL gives him a low grade and he has to come back for his final year? He will get to play without Barkley and probably several of the other studs that USC has on their team this year. USC will be rebuilding with lots of young blue chippers next year and Redd's production isn't likely to get better. Screw him.
As for Brown, I think he also made an idiotic choice. I just can't understand why he thought he'd walk into a new school and program and immediately do enough to significantly increase his NFL stock. Look at what Robinson is doing this year. Look at what O'Brien did with the Patriots. Brown would have been our clear #1 and would probably be having a stellar season. Did he really think he was going to walk into OU and unseat veteran starters? Seriously...
The other guys left b/c they weren't going to play and sought better opportunities. I really don't blame them or care. They weren't going to be major contributors here this year and maybe ever. But these two will never be forgiven by me.
Fortt did not just transfer because he wanted to redshirt. I started a thread on here a few weeks ago discussing why he transferred. A friend of mine knows his family and redshirting definitely was not the reason for transferring. Khairi and his family pretty much thought he was better than he was and were not happy about his playing time in the past and what it would be this coming year if he played. It ended up being best in their minds to find a new place for Khairi.
Someone should read the updates...
I don't hate any of these players, but the worse they do, the better it is for PSU. It isn't as easy as people think to switch programs on the fly: a new college life, new friends, new teammates, new coaches, new system, new playbook, etc... You are playing catch up with competing players that have been there for years. It makes more sense for players that know they will never start to transfer than for first-stringers to leave. Then again, with Penn State's scholarship limit, everybody is going to get a chance to earning a starting job.
This post was edited by BlkShoeCole 22 months ago
I said it before and I'll say it again. As far as Redd is concerned, he'll be fine. He'll play some college football and move on. But mark it down, he will regret leaving PSU later in life. He'll look back on it as quitting and wished he hadn't.
I was going off what MZizzle2 said. Was playing on the irony that his main reason for leaving was for more playing time, but he won't get it.
You make some good points, but Redd's skill set is not even in the same neighborhood as Bush's! Bush was faster, more agile, and a better receiver. Redd is closer to LenDale White than Reggie Bush and it's not even close.
Why not? He wanted to RS this year because of his knee and rehabbing it correctly.
He was always redshirting this year whether he stayed or left. I'm sure there were other factors but its not as if he went to Cal expecting to play immediately then got screwed over and told to redshirt.
If you look at the history of guys who transferred from PSU over the past 40 years, very few have done better than they would have done at PSU. The most notable is Jeff Hostetler.
Pat Devlin had 2 extremely productive years at Delaware, and currently sits 3rd team QB for the Dolphins last I saw.
Thats like being 5th string on a team with a QB.
He did have two very good years at Delaware and is on an NFL roster. However, if he had stayed at PSU he would have been the starting QB in 2010 for a team that probably would have won 9 or 10 games with him at the helm.
To be fair, he wasn't drafted out of college so transferring didn't really help his draft stock. Can't remember if Delaware won or lost the Div II championship game but that's still a pretty darn good memory to have when his playing days are over.
“We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill
Probably neither since they don't play in Division II.
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