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Robert Morris beat Kentucky in the NIT 59-57. Wow.
My buddy texted me this afternoon saying "I'm betting huge against Kentucky, they don't want to be there and they're gonna blow it." He just won a whole lot...
Interested to see what the four freshman do...I think Noel will leave, but the other 3 have a very tough decision ahead for them. It'd definitely be very cool for college basketball if all three came back, but we'll see. If they do Kentucky will be absolutely loaded next year.
Great to see a big win for RMU ( Bobby Mo)!
I watched the final 12 minutes......RM was up by a decent amount, but let Kentucky weasel back into it before sinking two free throws with about 7 seconds left. Love it!
This is what happens when you take one year wonders year after year after year. UKY goes from winning the title to losing a first round NIT game versus Robert Morris. What a joke. Cal will never change his recruiting philosophy.
Think those fans would trade last year's NCAA Tournament title for less one and done players so they could have had an Elite Eight run this year? I don't think so. Wildcats also lost their best player who will be at the very least a lottery pick in the NBA Draft this year, despite tearing his ACL. Sure they were no powerhouse with Noel in the lineup but they were at a tournament team who would have won a game.
Cal gambled with bringing in Harrow to bridge the point guard gap and it didn't pay off, so they were playing this season without a true high-level point guard. Coaches hit and miss with recruits, this miss was more glaring because of the position and microscope Kentucky and Cal are under.
They'll return a number of talented players in Goodwin Poythress and Cauley-Stein who quite frankly needed this year to show them how hard it is.
Trust me, UKY fans wouldn't trade it. They are rabid about hoops. I lived in Lexington for four years.
I just don't think its the right way of doing things. I'm still trying to find out how the NCAA bans UConn from the NCAA Tournament due to a low APR, but Kentucky si fine recruiting five one and done kids each year. How does that help?
'Respect All Fear None."
There has to be riots in Moon township!
"Joe Paterno's the greatest college football coach ever" -Urban Meyer cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2012/01/urban_meyer_calls_joe_paterno.html
UK pretty much sacrificed one terrible year to possibly win another title next year. They will be loaded next year, especially if Randle commits there tomorrow. This bad year has show Goodwin, Cauley Stein and Poythress that they need to come back for another year and that is not good news for the rest of college basketball.
So, they are going to win the title again, just like it was supposed to compete this year for based on an influx of more one year wonders? It depends on who stays.
You don't think it's the right way to build a successful basketball team or you don't like the ethics of bringing in a player for just one season? If Kentucky doesn't recruit the one-and-done players, someone else will. They're just playing within the current set of rules.
I personally think basketball should go with the baseball model where you're eligible to be drafted out of high school but if you choose to go to college you've got to stay until the completion of their junior year or 21st birthday. I think there are a number of high school players who can play in the league straight out of high school, but if you choose to go to college the player has to stay. It hurts the on-court product and 'student' part of the student-athlete having a revolving door of players.
Its great down here in SEC country to hear them whining about not getting in, along with TN, Bama ect......thier theory? There is prejudice against the SEC in basketball because they are so dominant in football. Classic
When Kentucky lost Nerlens Noel, that was it. As they broadcasters mentioned many times during the game, he was the only shrivel of toughness that team had and even then it wasn't a lot. Good for Robert Morris. What a drastic fall from being NCAA champs last year to losing in the first round of the NIT this year to a #8 seed.
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
I'm with you on your Kentucky take....If Cal puts starts implementing an academic focus, he'd continually win Championships if kids stayed multiple years. If he's a good coach and mentor, these kids will come play for him regardless if he pushes them to stay multiple years.
Also like ADs take. Either make the kids stay for multiple years, or skip the NCAA completely.
This is really a two-sides argument that could go on forever. Anyway, glad to see RMU beat them.
The only way to curb this is for the NBA to implement a minimum 2 or 3 year out of high school rule similar to what the NFL did. I know the NFL did it because of the physical development, but still would eliminate the one-n-done mentality. People only complain about what Cal does because he is the best at it. Last year he struck gold with a bunch of superstars that were willing to play hard and as a team. This year it blew up in his face. He got a bunch of primadonna’s that weren’t willing to do the little things to win games. I don’t like the way the rules are set up, but they are what they are and until the NCAA and NBA changes the rules this will continue.
Kentucky's APR was actually the second highest in the SEC last year. Vanderbilt was first. Surprisingly, their one and done players do complete their classes with good grades. They don't just drop out of school after declaring for the draft. Brandon Knight, from the 2011 team, came in with many AP classes and achieved a 4.0 at Kentucky.
Being realistic, if a Top Ten high school basketball player from Philadelphia wanted to play at Penn State for one year, do you really think Chambers would turn him down?
Randle put on the Kentucky hat less than an hour ago. FML
Why would he change his recruiting philosophy?
Dont you think Cal would love for the NCAA/NBA to make them stay, say 3 years in college, instead of one and done? I'm sure he'd love to have some of these player for 3-4 years instead of 1 and done.
"Whoever’s trying to kill me isn’t getting the job done. But one day, I’m going to punch that f___r in the face."
This years recruits are a much better group and most of their team is returning so they should be real good. People forget that last year a big reason why they won was Lamb, Miller and Jones. All three guys were not one and done players. Next years team will have a similar recipe to the title winning team.
I have to agree, this year's class was nowhere as good as the Davis, MKG and Teague class. Noel is a very good young player, but he was suppose to be a high school senior instead of being the guy setting the tone for an NCAA championship contender. Stein was viewed as a 2 to 3 year player and same with Poythress. Goodwin disappointed in my eyes, but I think he leaves early.
Second, Cal system is heavily reliant on the PG position (look at last years team - they got much better after Teague grew into the role) and they just didn't have it this year. Next year, with Harrison...they have it.
I am not a Kentucky fan, but they have the potential of being very dangerous and they still might get Wiggins (I think he ends up at FSU for a year). Combine him with Randle, the Harrison brothers, Dakari Johonson, James Young, Wiltjer, Poythress and Stein, Harrow...wow.
Its funny because you forgot No. 9 Marcus Lee in listing who comes in next year. And the only reason Goodwin disappointed is because he had to play out of position throughout games when Harrow was consistently dribbling into three defenders. He's a natural off-the-ball and would thrive with Andrew Harrison at the point if he chooses to stay (I think he will.)
Also think Wiggins ends up somewhere other than FSU. Maybe UNC.
You right, I completely forgot about Lee. I guess for me...I thought Goodwin would thrive in a role similar to Dion Waiters at Cuse last year and your right he wasn't give that opportunity.
After reading an article from UNC's 247 site on Wiggins' vist, it makes a lot more sense...to me he seemed bored and not interested during the Duke UNC game...I guess its his personality though.
Well the rich might get richer as a kid from hs, Aaron Gordon #4 recruit by ESPN, will announce at the McD's All-America game. Is final four is Kentucky, Oregon, Arizona and washington. The one nice thing is that he doesn't seem to be a one-n-done kid.
What's the starting line-up next year?
Bench: Harrow, Harrison, Young, Johnson, Lee, Wiltjer, etc.
That's absolutely disgusting. And you know those three sophomores will be on a mission.
*I should say I don't believe all three come back, but I definitely don't see all three leaving.*
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