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Comments on PSU guys:
leftcost -- I thought Mahon did well, he's not the quickest kid and he will certainly be a guard, but he moved his feet well and was physical.
Mahon was one of the strongest linemen at the event and did a good job moving his feet. I do think he is an interior guy when all is said and done, but Mahon had a very solid weekend
Mike - Thought Hackenberg was hit and miss but was really good on Sunday. When he's on he's really, really on but sometimes throws some erratic passes.
Guest - Based solely on last weekend, Hackenberg played better. In the whole landscape I still believe Browne is the top QB in this class.
Guest -- keep in mind this is about film work, in person evaluation, a whole body of work. We will see Max and Christian go at it at Elite 11 as well but Hackenberg got the better of things Sunday and that was impressive.
Q: Hackenberg's Potential?
Guest -- great potential, just needs more consistency.
Q: Will Hackenberg move up?
Mark -- I see him moving up but we will see him at the Elite 11 as well so we have another eval coming.
"Penn State has taken a lot of punches in the last six months and it's time to punch back" - BOB
Comment From shleon
Adam- Any chance vanderdoes ends up at Penn St?
shleon - I think there is significant interest there because of his relationship with Larry Johnson. His visit there could be crucial.
Someone else (can't find who) said they don't think he leaves the Pac-12.
Anything on Boyd from the weekend?
WE ARE! And we will always be...
Ask and ye shall receive... question just came in:
Ryan -- Boyd was very good, moving up. I think Penn State got some help with he and Hackenberg developing instant chemistry
Boom. I'm famous.
“We’re doing things we couldn’t imagine,” says safety Stephen Obeng-Agyapong. “But we’re doing them together.”
Thanks for the updates, hoff. Interesting to hear the comments about Vanderdoes. I sure would love for him to be a part of this class but think it's going to be extremely difficult to get him off the west coast. Hopefully he holds true and visits PSU.
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
I posed the same question right before you.
Homework assignment for our boys at the opening...seek out Vanderdoes.
"One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."
I sent in multiple questions to Farrell mocking him about DJ coming to PSU. He thought we had no chance. I'm shocked he hasn't responded. I've toned down each subsequent version of the question, even.
You'd probably have a better chance of having him respond via twitter. They seem to be focusing on player's positives in the chat. They've skirted / avoided who had the most disappointing performance.
Asking DJ and Mahon questions? I don't care if you do live on the leftwingcoast, you may be my new best friend (bonuses include extra protection, lifelong drinking buddy, and free corndogs).
It's funny to read the "analysts" almost down play interior guys on the line--especially Mahon b/c they originally labeled him an OT. Mike Farrell, we don't need to play Mahon outside w/ Donovan Smith, DJ and Nelson.
Hopefully we never need to use guys suited for the interior at tackle ever again.
+1000000000 And Jermaine Grace. Hopefully we have some added help with a couple of guys pulling the trigger this weekend...
You see that all the time with OG's and even centers. Interior OL don't get the love because they are deemed easier to find. You dont have to be a certain height or weight or arm length necessarily. And you could be a bulldozer or a quick-footed pulling guard type. Its a lot easier to find guys who can play guard. Does it mean that there aren't really good guards? No. Even the Top247 only has 3 OG's in the top 100 and none in the top 45 players. It's kind of a "the world needs ditch diggers too" scenario. You see it in the NFL too when they let the top OG in the draft drop to the 20's. You're telling me the worst teams in the NFL couldn't use an upgrade in the trenches? Its just not valued as much. Safety is the same way in the NFL, but curiously in college recruiting rankings there are still a lot of "elite" safeties. Yet, when you watch the draft there are a few studs that might go high, but most of the starting safeties in the league are late round draft picks or UDFAs. Now that I'm off my soap box, my point is there is nothing wrong with being labeled an interior lineman only. Assuming your team isn't asking you to be an OT
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Exactly! +1 for you, sir.
PREACH. But... I think the safety argument is the exact opposite. They are VERY RARE, and a hot commodity. If you can find an elite one... The only problem is, there aren't many of those... Which is what I hope we get in 2014- an elite safety. Although I think Amos can be exactly that.
Yeah I just thought it was funny that Rivals had him labeled as a OT originally, then say he's probably only going to end up inside. But he could be an elite inside guy as well. I get that interior OL and safeties are generally not valued very high, but when you have good ones, they stand out.
As I said, hopefully the days are gone when we ask guys who should be playing inside to play OT
Who's going to The Opening? I know Douglas. Breneman was suppose to, but I doubt he is now. Did Hack camp at any Nike camps to get an offer?
I don't think he ever went to a Nike camp, but they made sure they found him to invite him to The Opening. The Hack Attack will be there.
No doubt, about the elite safeties, and the elite guards too. I graded out Wisniewski's games as a senior and he was successfully blocking a guy in the 90 percents game in and game out. I'd call that an elite OG. And that is valuable too. There are game changing safeties, and not game changing guards, so I get your point. But when its 4th and inches and you're down 7, having a stud OG and OC are game changers as well, people just dont see it that way.
I want to hug you.
Reacting and running fast enough to cover NFL WRs while hitting hard enough to take out NFL RB's is a pretty limited segment of the population. I see why it's hard to project whether a 17 year old safety will grow into an Urlacher better suited to play LB or maintain the quickness that would enable them to play DB. There are a lot of strong fat kids in the world, but not that many strong fast kids. That one little S makes all the difference.
Sweet. Should have known that being that he's ESPN's top rated QB.
I can't wait for Hack to bitch slap Morris during the whole camp.
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