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Just because I thought it would be an interesting perspective, regardless of rating, to think about how many of our commits were top targets.
When I say "top targets," I mean players who: 1) were offered early in the process, and 2) were in the top tier on the PSU board at their position. Based on this definition, I feel like arguments could be made for a number of prospects, but here's what I see as top targets among our commits:
Chris Godwin - offered in October. Knew he was the top WR on PSU's board, as evidenced by taking him as the 3rd WR in the class.
DeAndre Thompkins - offered in November. Staff targeted him early as a playmaker. Knew from the offer he was top tier.
Marcus Allen - offered in February, I believe was the 2nd or 3rd safety offer out there, though he was told he was the top S prospect on the board.
Troy Vincent - his offer was given out so early it is not even in the system. For a little while, was one of the only realistic CB targets left (even if fans didn't label him realistic).
Nick Scott - offered in October, one of the first RB targets.
Mark Allen - offered in October, one of the first RB targets.
Jared Wangler - this is somewhat debatable. However, the "offered early" requirement for top target classification is relative to the process. Wangler's process started a good amount later than most. Penn State was his first major offer and that counts for something (being early). Was also the only LB offer for a time period when the staff clearly wanted another LB and few realistic options were remaining.
Troy Reeder - offered in October. One of, if not the first offers to LB. Obviously a top target.
Michael O'Connor - this one was tough for multiple reasons. First, O'Connor's situation as a 2015 recruit who reclassified. Second, O'Connor was on the national radar for a little while without seemingly being an option for Penn State. Also, Penn State offered a couple of QB's before O'Connor. However, they offered O'Connor even when there wasn't quite room for a QB in this class.
Not quite top targets:
Noah Beh - was an early offer (depending on the situation, I counted Jr. Day or prior as "early"), but it was repeatedly said that there were OT's higher on the board. Once other OT's committed elsewhere (cough, Quenton Nelson), the staff pushed for a verbal from Beh.
Troy Apke - I really like Apke and wanted to put him in the top tier. However, despite several visits and at least one camp at PSU, Apke needed to visit again on Junior Day to get his offer. I could see arguments putting him in a top tier, but I think he's a hair away at this point. Still a very good prospect.
Daquan Worley - fairly late offer for the process, although he did not need to camp for it like some expected. Was a legit target from the beginning, but wouldn't call him a "top" target.
Antoine White - better than second tier, but not quite top tier, as evidenced by the later offer.
All of the "not quite top target" commits are close to being top tier, IMO. Even if they weren't in Tier 1, they could be classified as Tier 1.5 at worst. Just seems like a terrific job by the staff.
Just another way to look at the class besides rating.
I only disagree on Apke. Staff considered him equal to Godwin, which is why we took him so early. Sean has stated this previously. They fell in love with him last summer and knew he was important early.
“We’re doing things we couldn’t imagine,” says safety Stephen Obeng-Agyapong. “But we’re doing them together.”
Every time I remember what our WR group looks like this cycle, I just get excited. Even Hack won't be able to overthrow those burners.
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I'd have to say I think Goodwin is my favorite prospect from this class so far. I love this kids potential.
Nice post BTW Bills!
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Its a class that reminds me of our 2010 cycle. In getting who they wanted and relatively quickly and also the prospects being regarded well
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I agree on the 2010 comparison Seltz... Lets just hope the final outcome is the exact opposite.
As for Bills post, again agree on all... Only "tweak", White maybe the only one I would not put in tier 1.5 or better... But thats splitting hairs.
It certainly does. Hopefully we don't get the results that we got from the 2010 class. That has to be the most disappointing class we have had at PSU in a long time (for various reasons). I understand that the scandal caused some of this, but just look at our high end recruits...
Bolden - Transferred, was not good
Fortt - Transferred
Graham - Left team
Hailes - Medical condition (feel really bad for him)
Haplea - Bumped way down the depth chart and then transferred
Paul Jones - Transferred
K. Kolb - Left the team (forget what happened with him)
Redd - Transferred
Ricketts - Couldn't gain weight. Transferred to Pitt where I think he left the team in the offseason
Royer - Quit team
Pullium - Never made it on campus
That is 11 out of 19 commits who are gone before their eligibility is up. Kind of crazy.
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The 2014 WR's may be the best group we've had since D-Will, Butler & Norwood.
I guess I don't recall Sean saying that, but if he did then he certainly belongs on the top target list. I just figure if he was in that top tier, he would have gotten an offer sooner, but that's JMO.
I could see arguments putting him in the second tier. White was more clearly below the top tier than any others. However, I figure that if he was in the second tier, then a bunch of second tier offers would have gone out. He was simply next in line, which makes me think "Tier 1.5"
The list is affected mostly by opinion, as some points are definitely debatable.
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