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this is fighting BS. especially when you consider the amount of money that I pay for the Nittany Lion club donation and for my 4 season tickets. I would much rather see a good game and a loss send them beat up on Rhode Island. yes they still want me to commit long term.
One other thing to consider is where do we recruit more and get more talent, Virginia or Rhode Island.
This post was edited by mdepsu2000 18 months ago
I think we can say that the Ohio and UVA games were tough, hard fought losses. We finished 8-4.
Can you honestly say you would rather this past team be 8-4 with those tough losses, or 10-2 with those extra wins coming over Rhode Island types?
This post was edited by PSU17 18 months ago
Easy ... challenge the team and get what you get. I don't want a creampuff schedule. We can agree to disagree, but playing RI, along with Eastern Michigan and Kent State in consecutive weeks accomplishes very little.
Its not like we are trying to be bowl eligible. This will not help sell season tickets. Single game sales may be at all time highs.
I personally disagree with the premise that playing RI is automatically a NET +1 in the win column.
IMO, playing a team like UVA (bad, but BCS level bad) contributes more to preparing the team for the B10 slate. Playing RI puts us at a higher risk of losing a subsequent game against a decent team (i.e. Michigan, or even Kent State if they're good again this year).
Playing UVA yields a higher higher probability of a loss, but 1) It's not THAT much higher (still a game we should easily win); and 2) It more helps us in the following games (Kent, Indiana, Michigan).
So, IMO, the net effect on W's resulting in playing RI is pretty close to zero (0).
If I could upvote you twice, I would.
Whatever the reasons for this, you have to imagine BOB is on board with it. Maybe it was even his idea.
It could be that BOB is more concerned about the possibility of injuries than he is about "toughening" the team up for the conference schedule. Maybe he wants the opportunity to get young guys experience, prepare them for the future. Maybe he wants to be able to sell the win to recruits. The closer we are to 12 wins, the more he can sell the possibility of championships and big-time bowl games to recruits once the sanctions are over.
Side note: looking at our 2013 schedule, we've got two byes: one before our first conference game and the second one before OSU. I like having a bye week before we play OSU.
I agree with you that UVA isn't an automatic loss. My post that you responded to was trying to find out if that poster really prefers a tough, hard loss to an easy creampuff win.
UVA is still a bad team, and we could beat them. The chances are just higher we'll have a win after playing Rhode Island than after playing UVA.
I'll take the guaranteed win all day.
Agree 100%. Would have liked to keep the Virginia game on for next year but aside from that wins are what are important for the program right now. I'd schedule 4 wins on the OCC every year until we are recovered from the sanctions. With depth being a concern an easy OCC will allow us to build some depth and also take care of and hopefully keep guys on our two deep healthy for conference play.
OB is smarter than that.
Lol - well at least this was fun to argue about for a day.
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This post was edited by Domo 18 months ago
Terrible! I'm embarrassed.
For replying to a 12-hour old thread on a subject that had already been debunked without reading all of it? You should be.
This is an academic argument now, but Kent, Syracuse on the road, Temple, and Indiana on the road aren't guaranteed wins with a new QB, major losses on the front seven, and a team comprised of 70 scholarship players. They are all games we definitely *should* win but it will require some sweat. I have no problem giving the guys a cupcake to get rested for conference play. I don't like it as a fan but I understand it.
The problem with URI, as you point out, is that they were so bad last year that the game would effectively serve no purpose.
certainly an interesting debate. The way I look at it is that we need guaranteed wins during the sanctions and this year we need some cupcakes to break in a new QB. We saw what happened against moderately weak teams early in the season last year. We can say that was because of the first year in the system and that would be true, but I think we'll have a similar learning curve due to the key losses and the entire senior class that really carried last year's team.
I absolutely agree with you about URI being so bad that it doesn't help that much but at the same time it's better than a bye-week and there is zero chance of a loss like there was with UVA. Personally, I would like to see a better team terrible team if that makes sense.... ;)
IMO, the most important thing for the program is to keep the narrative on the team and OB going. Frankly, there are 3 potential losses in the first 4 games. It's not likely, but certainly possible. That kind of start would kill all the positive mojo we have going.
This post was edited by spud358 18 months ago
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