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This makes no sense. UVA finished a dismal 4-8. They're not good. They just caught us in the perfect storm. We finished a far better team then they did and I anticipate we'll be better than them next year.
So the reason is NOT for wins. We most likely would have beaten UVA. There's some other reason for this. I'm not buying the "they want easier games" reason.
This is PSU's doing, nothing to do with UVA and we will get our home game with UVA down the road. Folks are going to have to deal with it. It's more important to rack up wins in the non-conference schedule regardless of the opponent. We need to win games to help get through this and as the sanctions continue and the years go, it will be harder to do on a consistent basis in the BIG. Smile, be glad we still have a team playing on Saturday and show up to support them regardless of who they are playing. People are only going to remember the records not the opponents. If PSU is able to go through the sanctions winning 6 or more games every year the media will be all over it in a positive way. Think big picture folks.
BUT IT MAKES NO SENSE.
Who looks at the UVA game and goes, "oh crap. that's an L. better check down to a worse team."? I'll tell you...
I can understand scheduling cream puffs in the future, but your explanation doesn't fit whatsoever. This isn't Alabama coming to PSU next year. It's UVA.
This is just a dumb idea all around. There is no big picture to this.
I know there were rumors out there about this weeks ago, but the timing of this coming back right after the "negotiations" between OB, Joyner, and PSU make me think this is certainly OB's doing. I don't blame him, he needs 6 wins at least and with the sanctions, no one except us will care or even notice the schedule. If you look at other bigten teams, you'll see a lot of 2 MAC level teams, a FCS team, and a lone BCS conference team. before this PSU had 2 BCS level teams and 2 MAC level teams.
Having said that, URI is about as bad as you can get. I'm legitimately concerned for some of those players.
I also wonder what the bonus structure is for him and his assistants. If they were written before the sanctions and tied to number of wins...
This post was edited by spud358 15 months ago
UVA WAS 4-8 BY SEASON END.
What is there to be scared of?
plus it allows us to essentially spend effort game planning for kent state and build depth up for that game and rest starters....they are so bad its like having a bye week
It's not a matter of being scared, it's a matter of ensuring a win. Believe it or not, UVA is not a guaranteed win.
You do realize we will have an inexperienced QB and major holes to fill on the defensive side of the ball correct? You also realize we open with a decent Cuse team and close with a good Kent St team. There is the possibility there for both of those games to be loses, the last thing you need is to lose those two and somehow get upset by UVA. It's the same shitty UVA team we played and lost to this year. Last thing we need is to go 1-3 in the non-conf portion of our schedule. Sure we should beat UVA under normal circumstances, there is nothing normal about what we are dealing with right now. Also, you have no idea how transfers could end up impacting us. Seems most kids will stay, but you never know. PSU is doing the smart thing here.
This post was edited by PSULIONS17 15 months ago
even better because you get an actual scrimmage to get young players experience in an actual game. OB is used to having preseason games in the NFL, that is exactly what he is doing. I understand the fan's frustration, but I don't blame him. I think this team will benefit from this. If they can beat Syracuse a 5-0 start is a good bet keeping the narrative on OB and PSU going. With a loss to Syracuse and a possible loss to UVA (despite some that think it was a slam dunk) we could be looking at 1-2 heading into week 4 which would kill the momentum OB's got going in the media. He's basically assured himself of no worse than a 3-2 start with 4-1 being very likely.
Success isn't something that just happens - success is learned, success is practiced and then it is shared.
-- Sparky Anderson
If Hack blows his RS in this game......
if this is all true, bob better tell the AD to scrap STEP bc the attendence/ticket sales for next year is going to be even worse with UVA off the schedule.. anyone know how much PSU gets for their game with Cuse?
This post was edited by BaltLions24 15 months ago
Yeah I guess. Just thought that would be a really "up for it" game. Hrmph.
psubills is concerned. See above.
If we're going to schedule a crappy team from Rhode Island, we should have scheduled Brown as a tribute to BOB and Joe.
This post was edited by psujmc1992 15 months ago
“We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill
On another note, there are better things in the works for down the road. Patience guys, I know it's not ideal, none of us want to play Rhode Island, but we need to make it through the storm and get out the other side.
If you recall, there were also rumors about OB wanting more marketing and ticket sales support. In fact, the day after the "deal" there were a few new positions posted by PSU in those areas. Seems like this is certainly something OB is aware off.
I think we also have to remember that scheduling 2 MAC level teams, 1 FCS team, and 1 BCS conference team is quite normal for the bigten. The notice is short and the timing is poor, but PSU isn't really doing anything their peers aren't doing in terms of this OOC schedule. It 's a little worse because the BCS team is syracuse and the FCS is about as bad as they get, but PSU has no post season to concern themselves with rankings for. It sucks for us, but I think in the long run this will be better for the program.
I might be teaching a couple classes next fall at URI so I'll be sure to wear my PSU tie that week.
sorry for jumping on you; just frustrated. I wanted that game and was really looking forward to it.
Well, it was an L last year.
I would have much rather played and beaten RI last year than lose to UVA.
I hear you, but then again, respectfully, I don't see the point of view.
Next year, and by 2016, what is the long term impact of a 9-3 vs 8-4 team? What is the difference between a 7-5 and 6-6 team?
I think we still have better than 75% chance of winning that game anyway. We'll certainly be favored. But even if, "Oh, no, we lost!" to an ACC team while on sanctions, with a reduced roster, starting a bunch of young players, and breaking in a new quarterback and linebackers.
So what? Is any recruit really going to base his judgement on that game or would that entire perception be erased with a win against Wisconsin, Nebraska, Ohio State, or Michigan. People will judge this young team by how much it grows over a season.
"We need to win" by dropping a respectable opponent for the little sisters of the poor? I don't see what a win or loss gets us. But I do see that a game against UVA will put more butts in the stands and book more hotel rooms.
in short, yes...there is a substantial difference in wins vs. losses regardless of competition. Perception is going to be everything with us in recruiting for awhile.
What would have been the impact of that one extra win? Absolutely nothing.
If anything, the UVA game helped the team the rest of the season because it exposed the troubles in the kicking game. OB countered by going for it so often on 4th down the rest of the year which directly led to quite a few extra wins. A romp of a FCS team last year wouldn't have helped the coaching staff or players learn anything.
I think BOB is just making the schedule easier to make sure he has a decent record next year so he is still a hot NFL coaching prospect and will be gone after next year.
To each their own, but not me. That game against BCS conf opponent UVA, as ugly as it felt for us fans, was a lot more beneficial in preparing our kids for the run they made after that game than would have playing f*cking D-5CCC (or whatever level they are) Rhode Island.
So this year, we probably have an 80% (conservatively) chance of winning, and win or lose it's much more helpful to the squad going forward.
In other words, a 20% chance of a beneficial loss seems like a small price to pay for better prep and not risking < 60k in the seats for the first time in 40 years.
Ugh. I doubt I'll even tune in on the TV. From a fan's perspective there's no entertainment value, and you learn nothing about your team.
9-3 vs 8-4 is a BIG difference in the record books, in teh eyes of fans, in teh eyes of media, in the top 25 rankings, etc. If we beat Ohio as were expected to last year and finish with 9 wins, all of the accolades we got for 8 wins is even BIGGER. Just saying.
Link to the story where the RI coach and the tweets from players make is sound pretty legit...
Ever think it could possibly be part of a deal for them to come to the Big Ten?? Allows VA to schedule a team they wont see very often vs a team who will more then likely be a perennial game if they make the move to the Big Ten. They'll just be postponing their butt kicking for a few years!
I would bet you anything, that a 9-3 PSU team ends up ranked. That would have been a huge deal. If we played two cupcakes and instead of Ohio and UVA and we're 10-2 that is an unbelievable story and OB wins about every coach of the year award out there.
If you honestly don't think there is a difference between 8 or 9 win seasons versus 6 or 7 win seasons we'll just have to agree to disagree.
This post was edited by PSU17 15 months ago
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