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Or, "Dr. Emmert, did you ever have any conversations with Dr. Vicky Triponey regarding the Penn State case?"
By proving that the death penalty was an option on the table....by the letter of the NCAA manual, this is reserved for repeat offenders of major violations
Not only was PSU not a repeat offender, but they had never had a major violation, thus no death penalty should have been an option. By Emmert saying that it is on the table, he is given the implication that they will bend the rules to suit them. PSU was the only major football brand without violations...so in any other school, Emmert would have just left it go to the infractions process and been able to get his wish, but against PSU he had to game the system to bring PSU down. That's what makes it illegal... Given what we just found out today from the NCAA about their investigations process and what we know from the Todd McNair case, it is fair to say they would have conjured up what they "needed" to level severe penalties. What happened is the PSU BOT desperately wants to put these issues behind them by the end of Erickson's presidency, so they wanted to get the bloodletting over. In the end, Erickson concluded that PSU would be screwed one way or the other, so he elected to take the punishment now rather that to draw it out like is happening at Miami. We probably would not have gotten the death penalty in the infractions process as we would have sued that it was not applicable for first time offenders, but they would have given us the same bowl ban and the same scholarship reductions.
There are specific video clips of Emmert saying not only would they consider the death penalty, but that the sanctions would likely have been much worse. And Ed Ray saying that he started from the "scorched earth" approach, which is essentially a legalese way of saying to destroy all resources to drive someone into the ground (think of Sherman's march on the South). It doesn't take much to read between the lines that Emmert and Ray held the death penalty over Erickson's head...and that is in their own words.
2012 wasn't pleasant for PSU....so far 2013 projects to not be pleasant for the NCAA.
This may be answered in a later post (I haven't read this thread fully yet), but the judge would have to recuse from a case involving people that give her gifts. I've worked for two judges, and they've recused for things like: recent former clerks representing parties; in-laws being part of the firm in front of them; friends appearing in front of them; etc. I've seen other judges recuse for people they didn't like appearing in front of them. This Kane thing is a red herring and needs to be dropped.
This post was edited by psume06 15 months ago
Or, if it works to your advantage strategically, get him to perjure himself before you get to trial and make sure he can't testify (this assumes that having that assclown on the stands hurts PA's case, which it likely doesn't). That's what PA did with Curley and Schultz. It's also the beauty of working with the state as opposed to a completely private case.
Of course. The article doesn't involve anyone involved in this case though, pretty sure.
WE ARE! And we will always be...
No, it doesn't, but there was some consternation about if they showed up, and at least a full page was dedicated to ramblings about Kane. You were just the last I saw about it before I had to say something. We may not have a sympathetic judge, but she's not going to be taking bribes or working her boyfriend's case. All I'm saying.
lol good point
Now your talkin!!! Right next to Jerry..
Day late and a dollar short, again!
Ok..Seems like everything hinges on obtaining standing according to many astute commentators. Does that simply get decided by the judge or does the State get a chance to argue why this case should have standing? I would think the NCAA playing the role of Luca Brasi and telling Erikson:…. "either your brains or your signature’s gonna be on this consent decree", would be enough for even the most dense judge to understand shouldn’t be valid...
me...Pipedope used my line earlier...
Decided by the judge. The state's argument is in its complaint. The defendant (NCAA) files an answer... It's answer here will be motions to get it dismissed because they don't want to go to trial. If the PA attys plead well enough, it should survive. Not to mention today's developments. Def helps anti-NCAA enforcement perception... But as TC said himself, the complaint was well thought out and illustrates a strong case I think. I can't believe I just complimented TC. Ewww
By survive , is that standing?
Yeah, if the Judge buys PA's argument for standing moreso than the NCAA's argument against standing, she will rule that she can hear the case, and set a court date- aka the suit survives and we move forward. At which time I believe that Emmert would get on his knees (where he belongs) to try to negotiate.
Have you asked your friend if today's development changes things. I know we all assume it does but I'd be interested to hear what he says.
Thanks rmj...Noticed the respectful: "as TC himself said.."
Wow, and word on TOS is the next shoe is about to drop tomorrow...
Ray Blehar's report...
One of these shoes?
This post was edited by PSU_DG 15 months ago
Ray Blehar's report wont get any attention outside of PA. It will get as much attention as framingparterno.com gets. ZERO.
He isnt the state of PA, he isnt the Governor, he isnt a Paterno. So the main media wont roll with it.
This post was edited by NevadaNittany 15 months ago
BacardiBuckeye: "But in all honesty I like Penn State, I want to see Penn State do good that's why I check this board everyday." 4/2/14
He is a former federal investigator and worked on this with current federal investigators so whether it gets attention or not, it will be credible... And I believe he has hired a PR team and will be turning this over to the AG, Paterno's lawyers, Curley/Schultz/Spanier lawyers.. So even though it may get no attention tomorrow, it could play a key role down the line during the legal process.
I did not know that. Atleast his hard work will get some use.
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