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But as it is now, that is 40 less scholarships that Penn State has to pay for out of it's endowment. The NCAA paying PSU for NOT paying kids to come play here doesn't make any sense.
Emmert would tell you he'll just have to "agree to disagree" with the actual facts. He already said as much to Franco Harris.
A transcript of the exchange between Franco Harris and NCAA President Mark Emmert at a recent NCAA function in Los Angeles, provided by notpsu.blogspot.com.
This post was edited by JettaPSU2001 15 months ago
If he became President of Penn State, would that be considered an upgrade or a downgrade?
I agree with this statement. The real legal strength for overturning the sanctions is that they were illegally applied. If standing is given someone would have to stand on their head to argue that the NCAA had any basis for these sanctions. It makes for a simple yet elegant argument. All lesser arguments only add to the noise waterdown that strength. I agree its beneficial to continue to bash the village idiot Emmert as 33 argued at the top of the page. I guess I would just like to do it with legal arguments that complement the State's.
This post was edited by RRR56 15 months ago
From the article:
Dent, in a phone interview, said he was hopeful there would be a congressional hearing on the NCAA.
I highly doubt when Emmert was grandstanding and piling on Penn State that the words "NCAA" and "Congressional Hearing" would be coming.
Love how the snowball continues to roll...
The Pennsylvania Senate is expected to vote on a bill Wednesday that could keep Penn States $60 million fine levied by the NCAA in the state.
Should be interesting to see how Emmert tries to circumvent state law.
I can't see any way that the NCAA would want to fight this if (when) passed. There is just too much at stake for them to do so.
I don't think the NCAA will fight this one, doesn't make any sense to.
According to this article, the NCAA has agreed to Sen. Corman's litigation.......not sure what that all means but it seems like they'll allow it to stay in State.
Good find, that is new info for sure. Not surprising though... there was no way that the NCAA would let that thing go to court. I think this shows that the NCAA is no interest in fighting the Commonwealth if it cannot get something thrown out in court.
Yeah it was baffling why they would even fight that at all.
I don't think they really did. Emmert just tried to show how big he was thinking that PA wouldn't do anything about it. As soon as Corman's lawsuit was filed, you didn't hear a peep out of them.
Good point. The only thing I remember was them turning down a request to keep it in State, then the lawsuit, now the cave in.
Time to cave in on Corbett's lawsuit.
The whole ability to punish PSU was based off of the belief that the public perception of fighting the sanctions would be too negative that it would never even be approached. Unfortunately for the NCAA, PA politicians need to get re-elected from a huge PSU fanbase.
One way would be to receive the revenue they would have recieved from bowl games missed. Not hard to figure out. If at anytime during the suspension they win 6 or more games which makes them bowl eligible they should sue for those revenues. Most of all the bowl games that the big ten would attend base there selectee based on the Big 10 standings.
I think that would be a good start, besides returning the 60 million per year, which we could put to use better then the NCAA. Should be an interesting fight.
They should also let players freely transfer to PSU without the year wait time until we have a full 85 scholarship roster.
We both know that wont happen
I am not sure what the remedy would be but I am a "one foot before the other guy" and the first order of business is a finding that these sanctions are illegal and instituted by what has shown to be a corrupt cabal. It will come down to whether we adhere to law or whether the elite shall determine things..That simple IMO..
That's not really relevant here.
All the bowl revenues go to the Big Ten Conference. It's up to the conference, not the NCAA, to decide whether PSU gets a bowl revenue share or not.
Question on the consent decree. We've discussed the potential problem of the state's case in regard to "standing" I've recently talked to a number of people who actually think the consent decree is the biggest hurdle for the state to overcome with some thinking the decree may ultimately sink the case. Thoughts?
- if the state get s standing will the NCAA run to negotiation table to avoid discovery thus not bringing the decree into the case?
-does the state have to prove dick rod was coerced?
- today's news about the 20 k payment to lawyer in Miami case is great...there may be no Emmert to even negotiate
Been hearing the same but I don't get it. The case centers on anti-trust. It seems material to me the State could argue the agreement was coerced. Unless the NCAA walks in with a sworn statement from Rod saying the agreement wasn't coerced, discovery would be needed.
Second, the State is arguing on behalf of the people who didn't sign a damn thing.
Just my thoughts, I could be wrong.
Thoughts are this is bogus. All of my thoughts flow out of an assumption that the law has as its basis ethics and logic. If this is not the case there is no underlying basis for respect for law and it unravels in a sane world. I do not personnally respect something as persuasive if it is not logical. Having said that, I am not a lawyer but if you agree with me on that score, try this one on: Actions take place within a context. Penn State signed the consent decree, obviously under duress. Again, let me use another god father reference: When Luca Brazi told the band leader either his brains or his signature would be on the contract making Frank Sinatra a free agent, no one logically would say: "Well gee, you signed the consent decree so looks like everythings on the up and up...". That would not be logical and would be mindless for a judge to so rule. The analogy is dead nuts and not strained..It is well established that the NCAA is corrupt (the "Mob") and anything that was signed is null and void because it was extorted. Plain and simple..
Emmett getting fired or stepping down would be great news for PSU. The PSU sanctions were Emmett's doing and a new President probably wouldn't have the same affinity for them and IMO would be much more willing to negotiate.
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