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OSU didn't lead for Johnson either. Until AU's coach got fired, which was inevitable. Minus sanctions, we would have won out with Roof. And other kids from down south, with the staff we have, and the players that wouldn't have left... We would have had a top 5 class no doubt. Boyd, Foster, and Johnson, and Johnson all sign with us... And Id bank on us being in Vanderdoes' final 3 with no sanctions, not to mention already having Webb and others... Top 5 with no sanctions, fairly confident...
WE ARE! And we will always be...
Any updates on Boyd's trip to Tennessee?
Stop ... Foster wouldn't have signed with PSU without sanctions. He had no interest. I doubt the Johnson from down south would have signed as well. Vanderdoes? LOL. Stop.
You keep most of the guys you had - Dorian Johnson, Bradshaw, Douglass and Fuller and MIGHT have had a shot at David Williams.
Yeah, Trey Johnson wouldn't of signed even if he verbaled anyway. As soon as Roof left, he would of been gone! IMO, we would likely of had a top ten class, but not a top five class.
Anyway, I am also curious how Boyd's visit went with Tennessee. They must need depth at WR really bad, or they really like Boyd, because they already have 4 WR commits.
I think we would have been anywhere from the 5-7 range with no sanctions depending how big our class was. With the rate we were rolling at, it would have been a really exciting recruiting season and I think we would have continued to get visits/verbals from studs the whole way through. That's all what if's now though and we have what we have.....which is still a really good class that reminds me of our classes under Paterno. It's going to be extremely exciting recruiting with our staff. The Dorian Johnson recruitment pre-sanctions showed me all I need to see about their potential on the recruiting trail.
They lost Hunter and Patterson early for the draft, so I assume the depth is pretty low.
You may be fairly confident, but you are wrong. No Trey and no Rob Foster. No Vanderdoes. Webb left pre-sanctions. LSU has the 7th ranked class with 28 commits and about a 91 average. We would have been more top heavy with 2 five stars to their 0, but we would have had less guys in the class and probably a lower average. So maybe with being top heavy we could have been close to them, but still behind. Top 10 would have been much more realistic and it would have been close.
Foster no. Trey Johnson no. Greg Webb, no, he decommitted before sanctions and never seemed to be committed. Vanderdoes, No chance.
We'd be top 15 for sure and good chance at top 10, but not top 5.
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He had us high, according to this... And JC does work for them on vids. It was very early. But the way our staff goes at it on the trail and with NO SANCTIONS, I like our chances.
With continued emphasis placed on passing in collegiate and professional offenses, the focus narrows on even tighter on recruiting big play wide receivers.
The class of 2013 is proof positive of this offensive philosophy. As it stands, two wide receivers are featured at the top of the board before the first running back makes an appearance.
One of those wideouts is Robert Foster from Monaca, PA. Not only is Foster the top receiver in the class, he's also the top offensive player overall and is the desire of Big Ten schools Ohio State and Penn State.
The next best receiver in the class without a commitment is James Quick, the Kentucky State champion in the 200-meter dash. SEC schools are definitely taking notice of Quick's speed and ball-catching ability, but he's pretty convinced of where he'd like to attend and it's not in the south.
After the 2011 season, Darrell Daniels found himself atop the list of best receivers out west. His big, strong stature will make him a big time threat in college, wherever he ends up, but he's admitted he'd like to stay close to home. So, it's likely he'll stay in Pac-12 country for his studies.
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Roof may have stayed with no sanctions.
Ya I have to agree with most here. PSU never stood much of a chance with guys like Foster, T. Johnson and Vanderdoes, but without the sanctions I think PSU would have finished in the 8-10 range in team recruiting rankings. I say this because guys like D. Johnson, Douglas, Fuller, Bradshaw, etc. would have still been part of this year's class and there's no doubt that the momentum the coaching staff had with respect to recruiting would have resulted in a few more blue chippers.
Also I think PSU would have landed David Williams if it weren't for PSU getting Emmert'd.
We had a top 5 team early in the process. And were on a roll. What was to stop us? Our staff was out-recruiting OSU... Until Emmert dropped the bomb. And keep in mind, with no sanctions, we have Silas, Brown, Fera.... Harder to transfer. We don't lose 4 games... All that factors in with no sanctions. Like I said, no sanctions, we are top 5... Agree to disagree.
Pre-sanctions: "The nation’s top-ranked receiver Robert Foster, out of Monaca (Pa.) Central Valley, has narrowed his lengthy list of scholarship offers to Alabama, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Oregon, Pittsburgh and USC."
It was never happening.
Even without the sanctions in place, I have a tough time seeing how we finish above any of Bama, Florida, Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame or USC.
With all the sanction buzz (Emmert talking about doing something to us in the media, and with the naming of Freeh and all that), and the early season we had, and our guys transferring, and the sanctions. All of that factors in. Without all these things, I have faith that the staff would have been in it at the very end. Fuller, Boyd, Johnson, Williams, the CB from OH... Also keep in mind, we'd sign 25, not 15... It's fine if 100% of the board disagrees. And even without Foster, I think we're top 5. Last post on the subject. Sorry for highjacking it. Agree to disagree.
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I would like to think so, but I doubt it. He had a chance to go home and he took it, and I think even with no sanctions it would of been hard to keep a southern guy at Happy Valley over going back home.
We have a chance to go undefeated and an elite bowl game with all of our players and no bowl ban....
Maybe true. Very good point.
Or Ole Miss after they land possibly the top 3 players in the class on Wednesday.
No we didn't
I remember reading somewhere that DaQuan Davis's mom wasn't pressed with WVU for the same reasons.
Seriously. There was no point where we were ahead of UM, OSU, USC, Bama, A&M (they had like 15 commits by the time Hack committed), Georgia, etc. We got to the top 10 at one point though I think.
Yeah. It's a valid concern. I will be interested to see who he signs with and how his career goes... If not for Emmert, he's ours...
Sanctions were never mentioned as an issue for Roof. He went to Georgia to be closer to family, from many accounts.
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