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I don't know.... very few. And that's a valid point. But you can't say it was a problem last year on 3rd and 1. Clearly, the evidence does not support that argument.
IMO the numbers aren't telling the whole story.
Just like everything in life, there is a context to everything. I remember many times this season getting frustrated when we didn't run the ball more often than we did, and IIRC they were usually on shorter yardage situations.
Nice job with the numbers though, didn't realize that.
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I don't know... 3/5 is 60% while 12/13 is 92%. Makes sense... MM is a 60% passer, and I'm sure if you look at rushing plays, 90+% went for at least 1 yard (less sacks).
I just remember being upset on multiple occassions where I felt that BOB got too cute. We had Zwinak and Zordich in the backfield, and we were getting more than a yard a sneak from MM. I just see no reason to throw. Admittedly though, I am conservative in that aspect.
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The play action pass is only a threat if you've run the ball in short yardage situations before. If the defense knows you don't run on third and a certain yardage, they won't respect the run at all.
I agree that short yardage situations are good times to pass, and IMO coming to the line with 4 wide (and for us with the luxury of our TEs being fantastic receivers they can go out wide too) is the best thing to do because it spreads the defense and creates running lanes. There'a obviously different philosophies though, so I could understand bringing on the big boys.
Also, I'm pretty certain it's common for an offense like ours to have options that the QB is responsible for, not just on 3rd down situations.
However, IMO, it's all based off of the run. If it's not balanced then there's not much of a threat to the defense and they can key in on just one aspect of the play.
I understand what you're saying, but it's not fair to break the 3rd and 1 stats into percentages. The better way to couch those stats is to say that we were unsuccessful only twice passing in our own territory on 3rd and 1, and those were insignificant game situations.
It's also important to note that a very important 3rd and 1 against #24 NW, McGloin threw to Carter for 19 yards and a big gain. And on one of the two unsuccessful passing attempt, we ran the ball with McGloin for a sneak on 4th and 1 in our own territory and didn't make it--but we were up 31-0 on Iowa.
In reality, the only unsuccessful 3rd and 1 in our own territory occurred in the First Quarter of the first game of the year while the game was tied 0-0. We went on to lead big at the half and lost the game in the 2nd half for reasons completely unrelated to that call.
I don't disagree with you, but I'd argue that we definitely had the right balance last year--the vast majority of the time. If anything, I felt like in the biggest game against OSU we were too conservative early in the game.
I'm the same way.
Very aggressive in schemes and formation, but I like my teams to run the damn ball.
I just looked back at 3rd and 2 on our side of the field (I think 4th-and-1 and 3rd-and-3 are not comparable to 3rd-and-1):
We were 4/4 on 3rd and 2 on our side of the field running the ball.
We were 4/6 passing the ball in the same scenario. Success against Ohio, ILL, NW (down by 3 in 4Q might I add), and IND (down by 3 in the 2Q). Failed against Ohio State and Purdue: it's here where I think Jive is recalling spots he wished BOB ran the ball more.
#1 Against Ohio State, 1st Quarter tied 0-0, 3rd and 2 McGloin incomplete after Zwinak ran for 2 yards on 1st down and 6 yards on 2nd down (near midfield). We called a timeout on 4th down where BOB changed his mind and punted rather than going for it near midfield--here's where I thought we could have been more aggressive since against every other team we went for it on 4th down in that position.
#2 Against Purdue the next week, 2nd Quarter up 10-3, 3rd and 2 on the PSU 36 after the previous play script went like this: McGloin pass to Robinson for 6 yards, ZZ for 7 yards (1st down), McGloin to James for 2 yds, ZZ for 6 yds, McGloin incomplete. Butters then had a terrible punt that Purdue started at the 50 and missed a FGA on that drive. No harm, no fowl, but it came the very next week after the scenario I'm sure Jive is thinking about.
This post was edited by GRS154 15 months ago
Video of Paterno's statue being removed prior to the beginning of every game.
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A male twhirler.
1. Dave Joyner anywhere near my University
2. Rod Erickson apologizing for Manti Te'O since we once recruited a Samoan
3. The fu@king blue ribbons on the helmets.
Red zone inconsistency.
3 pages and I don't think I saw anyone mention Steve Helwagen. Safe for him to post articles again? Haha sorry, I couldn't resist. Good luck next season guys, and keep proving all the critics wrong.
Mark Emmert's face.
WE ARE! And we will always be...
An explanation of the sanctions on my TV screen during every FN game.
or Emmert as NCAA President
"I like your head, it's a good look." - James Franklin, to a bald reporter asking a question.
Yes, you nailed it. #1 I was yelling at the field with my father and #2 I was barking at the TV, lol. Honestly, 7 of 11 isn't bad. They just stuck in my head for whatever reason. Of course, 16/17 is sublime .
White boys in the secondary
BacardiBuckeye: "But in all honesty I like Penn State, I want to see Penn State do good that's why I check this board everyday." 4/2/14
I totally agree. I felt so bad for that poor boy. every game he went out there and had to throw his baton in the air and dance around like a ballerina.
The kid is a national champ.
Kid did it voluntarily, so I guess it was on him.
It was strange though.
Bob defelcting questions in early December about his upcoming NFL interviews....
Great thread, guys. Thanks, Itz.
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