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BOB isn't leaving after one year and probably not after 4 years either. He'll be here for the long term, IMO.
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
WTF are you talking about?
I know it's way too early to judge BOB. That's what I've been saying in this thread, over and over and over.
“We’re doing things we couldn’t imagine,” says safety Stephen Obeng-Agyapong. “But we’re doing them together.”
I think that was sort of the point lefty was making....it's too early to call OB a "great" coach. It's not too early to say he's done a great job *so far* but it's too early to make a proclamation that he is a "great" coach period. I understand what he's getting at and don't take it as a slight against a family member as some seem to.
EDIT: Didn't realize lefty had already responded.
This post was edited by psumichael 17 months ago
"But that isn't how it works. Great coaches build programs over years. The game by game, season by season performance is not what's important."
Oops, I was responding to this part of your post. You have already said based on his record, he hasn't done that great of a job. That he hasn't maximized the talent on the team. Some of us think the job he has done given the circumstances has been great. Belichick and Saban did not start out winning big. But people saw something in them based on the way they ran their teams, even without great records, that could lead to the success they have enjoyed. Will BOB be as good as them? I don't know, but if he is not successful here or elsewhere, I'll be surprised.
“We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill
Only fools believe BOB hasn't maximized the talent on this team. McGloin has developed greatly since his arrival; every TE on the roster has made huge strides in their development; Zwinak is a major factor; Robinson is the best wide out in the league after having three catches last year; the O-L is light years better than it has been. Defensively, the secondary has all made strides; Barnes is an animal; Zettle has been pretty darn good when he is in. Lots of maximizing of talent on this roster.
This whole thread is one big reading comprehension "fail". The writer never stated nor implied that O'Brien is considering leaving - only that the job he's done at PSU this year would add to the interest in him from NFL teams that was already present last year.
Additionally, O'Brien has made commitments to Hackenburg, Brenneman, and every other 2013 recruit that he would be here for their four years. Anyone think, based on everything he's said and done and everything that's been said about him by people that have known him for years, that he is going to go back on that promise? Particularly when he moved his special-needs son and family to State College and they've just started becoming used to a new home, making new friends, etc?
This a pretty silly thread imho, and this is going to be brought up every year assuming PSU stays competitive. Better just get used to it, but the truth is that there's no way OB leaves before 2017.
I don't disagree with what you've said but the only thing I'll say is that every coach promises recruits that he'll be there the entire time they're at school.
Dominate The State
i have to agree with the worth of a coach being judged on him maximizing the potential of his team's talent. assessing a coach in sheer terms of wins and losses is not a fair assessment. i really think BOB is here to stay for at least another four years. JMO.
'Respect All Fear None."
You do not have a handicapped child. I do, getting settled and the right services to help them is extremely important. Not saying OB would not move for more money, do not have a feel for the guy yet, but having a severely handicapped child makes it much more complicated for them. Doubt he leaves for a variety of reasons, this being one.
I am pretty reasonably confident that he wont leave.
same here - i mean how could he leave - it would mean everything he said to his team and others would be a sham becuase he would be doing the same thing.........part of his appeal is his honesty and character - if he pulls a Lane Kiffin after one year and leaves - all of that is taken away from him.
This is all correct. Yet stranger things have still happened (Greg Schiano).
I do not believe he is leaving anytime soon. But I wouldn't completely take him at his word either about four years. Remember, he made a standard part of every one of his stump speeches on the town hall rubber chicken circuit the same. Don't worry, I won't touch the uniforms. And then he did before the first game was even played. I understand why it happened, and I'm not making this an argument for or against the names here. I'm just pointing out that you should never say never. Plus, coaches tell recruits that all the time anyway.
"A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep"- Glenn Carson
I do not think BOB will complete his contract with PSU.
3 years at the most and then back to the NFL
why NFL - you won't get this kind of atmosphere , loyalty, satisfaction, and longevity at NFL level. Anybody have any insight into his desire to get back to NFL at some point?
BoB needs to land 3 or 4 very good recruiting classes to really be able to contend with osu , wiscy and nebraska. He has the coaching ability needs the Jimmies and the Joes.
Its the highest form of competition and BOB is an intense competitor.
Or to sum it up simply: Superbowl
I think people simply assume that the NFL is the goal of most head coaches, especially one who has experience coaching in the pro's already. Money is also a big motivator.
We'll see. I think BOB will go to the NFL eventually as a HC, but I do think college football offers quite a bit. It's all a matter of preference, as BOB has seen both sides of the coin. Given that he originally came from CFB and specifically turned down opportunities in the NFL to come back to CFB, I have a feeling he prefers the collegiate level. But we'll just have to see what happens.
If he does - its only for a big market team. I believe BOB has received advice that the PSU job is much much better than a lot of NFL jobs.
I don't see the big deal...if he leaves, wouldn't every coach in the nation want to come here? It sure seemed that way based on the rumors flying around this time last year Chris Petersen was walking around State College with his family, remember??
BOB seems like a loyal guy who understands when he was brought in what his job was going to be. This was not a short term fix, it was a long term plan. I feel that he has bought in as much as the players right now and we will continue to grow from here. There will certainly be many bumps along the way, but if we come out relatively unscathed on the other side, BOB will forever be a hero. He also has to realize that he has extremely low expectations and the grass is not always greener if he leaves...
Just because you have a blog doesn't mean you are an authority on anything
Hoping you are right. Lwts not forget that obrien and his agent did not shy away from the fact that the nfl is obriens ultimate goal. With 5 plus years of tough times staring us in the face, not being able to bowl, compete for championships, or conference titles, and the sanctions after he was told there would be none, I would not be totally shocked to see him jump. Yes, he backed off Jacksonville last year, but who wants to coach for that team. Bad situation.....
That's a joke......not only did we not have a lot of fanfare before the sanctions, it would be real rough generating interest under the current conditions, at least for a known commodity
I don't see O'Brien leaving after this year, because he strikes me as a man with convictions. He and this team have inspired a nation this year with their commitment and dedication to the University, to the fans and to world. If he left after this year is would mean that everything he and the team worked for this year was for nothing. BOB stated when the sanctions came down that he was "Committed to seeing the University through these tough times"
I believe he is going to stay and I think anyone is doubting that should take a step back and look at BOB's actions throught this whole mess. BOB is going to steer this program through the tough times and make us a respected national power. Can't you see most of the college football world is now rooting for us, yeah you have the message board douche bags, but there are a whole lot more people that want to see BOB and PSU get through this than don't.
The Players believe in him and so should you!
This post was edited by PSUGeddy 17 months ago
BOB's presser tomorrow will be interesting because you know the question will come up about his name being in the hat for some NFL head coaching positions. I hope he comes right out and says I'm not going anywhere and I'm staying here as long as the administration wants him there. With that being said though, he will probably say something along the lines of "I'm not thinking about that, I'm thinking about Indiana and that's it". I think BOB is a man of high integrity and isn't going to back down from the challenges he faces at PSU. I have no doubt in my mind that he is the perfect guy to lead us out of this mess, even if we struggle to win games. He's the right guy we need leading our football program through this on and off the field. Also, he just uprooted his family from Boston and finally has them settled in to State College.
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