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Vandy is a great school, and much closer to home obviously, but I'd have to imagine we're still sitting in the driver seat here.
This post was edited by Andrew Dzurita 23 months ago
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
Hey, we have a Vandy too.
@RoaringLion "i see your point about BOB maybe not liking it, because a guy doing the interview could say the wrong thing, or annoy the recruit, but for the most part i think high school boys love attention, and getting it from blogsites has to be a pretty "rockstar" feeling...a lot of people on this site thought Rich Rod pitch to ryan was cheesy but he seemed to eat that up."
From my high school friends, they absolutely hated the whole process. The interviews, the facebook messages and wall posts. They hated it with a passion. The whole thing is pretty stressful for a 17/18-year-old, and then you have a bunch of different people trying to get in your ear about it (Not necessarily reporters, but mainly the fans who constantly tweet stuff like "go to ______").
This post was edited by rrossiceman12 2 years ago
i only know one kid that went to psu but a handful that were recruited to others...they basically basked about it, and talked about the coaches they were just off the phone with, and the new mail coming in, so idk, i don't write to recruits or current players i don't know, but i would probably think it was weird a bunch of old guys would get mad at me for choosing a school that i thought was best for me
Tony Mancuso @GoPSUTony Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Maggie Lucas is on FIRE in Baton Rouge. She has 16 of #PennState's 20 points.
for those not watching
Adam Breneman @AdamBreneman87 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
cant wait to get back up to state college!
Meyer4Prez "This is wut happens when ur team site analyst are huge homers glad Bill K+Alex G keep it real instead of getting our hopes up."
Me either Adam...me either.
"PSU a 3 to 4 win team" - New-era, September 2012
It really took that "I PAY YOU IF YOU COME HERE DAWG" to put it in perspective for me.
All it takes is one idiot with no common sense to write something like that and I can absolutely see the problems it would cause.
Man thats scary.
Its happened already. Read some tweets from a big booster I believe at Alabama who tweeted something less blatant but still was def. a violation. I think I read an article on it somewhere.
"Whoever’s trying to kill me isn’t getting the job done. But one day, I’m going to punch that f___r in the face."
It is very scary. I think that the NCAA needs to be reasonable with the social networks. A program and the recruit could be 100% following the rules, and some idiot with a computer could blow everything up. I think that as along as the compliance department of a university shows that they are putting forth a real effort to curb this activity and notifying the offenders to stop what they are doing, the NCAA consider that being in compliance.
Maybe there needs to be a list made up of these offenders that is sent in regularly to the NCAA. Perhaps they can deal with them in some way? I'm not sure anyone knows what the answer is to this problem.
This post was edited by getmyjive11 2 years ago
Stupid envelopes resetting means I missed most of the conversation in this thread recently.
Sean has a job to do...he doesn't talk to these guys as a fan of Penn State, he talks to them as a representative of 247sports.
Are bloggers becoming more official in terms of press passes, etc.? Sure...but are they part of a site that essentially requires them to be unbiased in reporting, asking questions, etc.? Doubt it. I have no problem with fans following kids on twitter, but talking to them and buddying up with them is inexcusable. There's no reason to try and befriend these prospects. Just leave them alone. The coaching staff is paid to recruit these kids. Let them do their job and stay out of it.
More and more are. The negative connotation associated with bloggers because people refuse to update their own personal antiquated definitions is really unfortunate.
Without opening up the blogs vs. online premium sites vs. newspapers, etc. definitions of what "media" is (we'll be here all month), I'll pass this along. I'll just say that it's improper to lump the credibility and ethics of all blogs together just as its improper to do so with reporters from all premium sites, all newspapers, all TV commentators, etc. Generally, "all _____ are _____" is a bad way to form an opinion.
I already sent this link to a few people in this thread, but it really is useful for anyone with an interest in this area:
You'll see that it contains direct quotes from Michigan's chief of compliance (she was interim at the time she wrote this) regarding the distinction between what coaches, media, boosters, etc. are able to do with respect to contacting recruits, as well as the distinction between interviewing them and trying to influence their decisions. It's a good read for everyone, not just people who write about their favorite teams. Especially interesting is that the same person can operate in a media and booster capacity, depending on their actions.
On another note, social media is a banana republic and the NCAA knows it. There's very little they can do to regulate it. It's obviously easy for someone to create a fake account posing as a Penn State fan and tweet things at a recruit that would be obvious violations...or derogatory things if it looks like a recruit is on the fence or going elsewhere (pretty sure this happened with Armani Reeves as he was about to make a decision, not that his decision wasn't already made). Same goes for Facebook.
I mean, what's to stop anybody here from creating a Twitter account called @BuckeyeFan4Lyfe and trying to get Ohio State's recruits ruled ineligible by offering them money or whatever? Or creating a blog with interviews (fake or otherwise) filled with leading questions trying to recruit players to OSU? How is the NCAA going to sift through that nonsense?
If Bob Lichtenfels (to use a *totally* random example of someone who is supposedly "objective media") decided to publicly influence a recruit via Twitter to attend Pitt instead of PSU, what are his consequences? Nothing. The NCAA doesn't have the authority to shut down Scout.com or any of its affiliated sites, and he's probably not even going to be vaguely disciplined within his own organization.
The NCAA is also wildly understaffed and overworked, and they're not likely to spend time worrying about what fans or even quasi-reporters are tweeting at recruitings or saying to them on Facebook. Which, sad but true. They have bigger things to deal with. It's the compliance offices at the member schools who have to clean up the messes of all these secondary violations.
It's practically an honor system for the people who cover these teams, because there are basically no consequences for people outside the NCAA umbrella (basically, coaches, SID's, and athletes). For reporters/bloggers, there are at least repercussions as to reputation and future access to the program, but many of those people don't depend on direct access anyway. For mostly anonymous fans, there are absolutely no consequences (maybe revoking season tickets if the school can track down the offender?).
This post was edited by scrappled 2 years ago
Evil Bill O'Brien @evilbillobrien Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
While suspended Sean Payton should take time and work for ESPN, poach recruits and take the Ohio State job. Oh wait, that already happened
I'm in NOLA and they're already saying LSU should rent him for this year to win the MNC. They already have a sick defense...put him running the O and that would be pretty impressive.
This post was edited by Lang06 2 years ago
"One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."
Welp looks like he will be a Rebel
Sekrah Sports @sekrah Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Maryland QB Danny O'Brien will be transferring to PSU. He can play this fall with 2 years eligibility remaining.
It's in the bag now
Also, love the site.
If true, I can't wait to see what he does in BOBs offense
"There are no shortcuts to any place worth going."
Does anyone think that if Danny O'Brien come here, our team chemistry will go up in flames?
This post was edited by Bedford2108 2 years ago
Sekrah? Wow this guy is still around?
Yes that awesome team chemistry we had with the McGloin/Bolden debacle...
This post was edited by psubills62 2 years ago
Oh and come on, guys, how many times do we need to keep this non-VIP. It's not that hard.
You act as if the players like McGloin or are comfortable with Bolden.
If anything, NOT getting O'Brien is what would hurt team chemistry.
This post was edited by RWC5113 2 years ago
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Did you see the Bowl Game against Houston? What team chemistry?
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