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Yeah things aren't looking good right now.
Our defense isn't up to snuff for a WC team anyway, and we have shown we can't score enough goals to get away with it. We don't score many goals period, really.
I didn't realize Jozy was having the year that he was in Europe though. 25 goals is pretty respectable.
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
Yeah, Jozy's having a great year and will move to either Italy or back to England this summer, we just need to translate that to the USMNT.
As for tomorrow, we'll be fine. We should have the firepower in the midfield and up front to keep the pressure off our outside backs, and to get a few goals. Also, one of their starting forwards went down with a knee injury in training, so that should help out a little. Friedel's had a career year at Aston Villa with a worse backline than what we'll put out there, so I don't think we'll see a big drop-off from what Timmy would do.
Bottom line, if we can't beat Costa Rica at home, we probably don't deserve to qualify.
I think you mean Guzan, but you are correct. He's had a very good year despite sitting behind a back line that may be the worst in Europe.
Ya, I meant, Guzan, my bad. Too many US keepers named Brad lol.
Disagree on Jozy times 100000. He needs to stay right where he is and log consistent minutes. This is the first time he's been comfortable in a while and he has the support of his club's management and coach. Why mess that up? The last thing he needs is to be uprooted after one year and go to a team that won't appreciate him or try to develop him and sticks him on the bench. He'll be just another American on an English team that doesn't get minutes. JMO, but this is the best thing that's happened to Jozy in his club career. Stay there Jozy. Stay. At least another year.
WE ARE! And we will always be...
I understand where you're coming from with his club history, but you have to look from the club's perspective as well. They're in a relegation battle at the moment, and you want to shed salary if you're going down a division. After spending two years in Holland, he really has nothing left to prove, especially for a struggling squad. Jozy's value right now is through the roof, so this is when you sell. If he moves over the summer, he'll have a chance to fight for minutes instead of rotting on the bench. I'm not saying he'd move to a top club, but more of a mid-level club (Fiorentina has been scouting him for a while). I see where you're coming from with your views, but they really can't afford to keep him, especially if they are relegated. I'd rather see him in Serie A than the BPL though.
Didn't know they were going to be in relegation... I'd agree with a mid level team where he can start and play big minutes. That makes sense...
been corrected, nevermind.
This post was edited by Texas Lion 13 months ago
It'd be interesting to see him playing for Fiorentia.
Playing alongside a guy like Jovetic couldn't hurt.
Boca isn't that good anymore. I'd rather move forward with Cameron & Gonzalez. They need to play together to become better. And although it would be nice to have Boca in the locker room, I can also see where Jurgen is coming from. With Howard & Cherundolo out with injuries, Boca not being chosen, and Donovan possibly retiring...it's time to see who the new leaders are.
I still remain optimistic, but tomorrow is a very important day for the USMNT's future.
Jurgen is definitely looking towards the future, he knows most of the old stars of the team are finished or at least on there way out. That may end up hurting us in the present, but its the right move for the future. We need to find the next group of guys who are going to star on this team.
Agreed. A lot of older, sub par players are mad... But I don't care
Damnnnnnn Israel almost beat Portugal. Portugal tied it in the 93rd minute or so. Ugh.
The biggest mistake jozy ever made was going on loan to Hull. He wasted a year playing on a crap, unimaginative club in a tough league. In retrospect he should have gone to a lesser league on the continent where he could have developed on a player.
What channel is the match on tonight? I'm having problems finding it listed.....
This post was edited by MDS99 13 months ago
Well that'd be fine if Cameron-Gonzo were somewhat competent, but they're not. A game that we HAVE to win is not the time to test some subpar players in a trial-by-fire type basis.
To me it's the same in terms of leadership. The Hex isn't the time to screw with team chemistry, especially when we got off to such a poor start to begin with. I'd rather us qualify this year with the remnants of the old teams still playing, and figure out team chemistry after the Cup in friendlies and things like that.
EDIT: And if JK is going to take out all the captains and older leadership, at least give some consistency to the younger guys so they can get some familiarity with each other. 24 different lineups in 24 matches as the head man is not something that helps foster growth or develop leadership. Guys have no idea what will come the morning of the game.
It's as if he does this purposefully to make them uncomfortable. That's part of being a professional I suppose, but these are all younger, inexperienced professional players. To reasonably expect any performance other than inadequate is unrealistic for this kind of turnover and inconsistency from upstairs. JK can be fired, so why not put the best product out on the field, limp into the WC, then figure this out when the stakes aren't as high?
Now we get to see the younger, even more subpar players find their footing. Yippee.
ESPN at 10.
I'll be at a formal, so I'll be checking here for updates as long as I can before losing the ability to read.
On the LB and RB positions, yeah I'd agree. But everyone is hurt (Johnson and Chandler will be just fine when they get healthy- both are young and studly, but the back line just needs minutes together... That won't happen until both are healthy)... Gonzalez is going to be a monster. He has all the tools. And I hope Shea gets PT... I am just happy there is no Gooch. I wouldn't call younger players that haven't done anything sub par. That's what moments like this are for... For them to PROVE themselves.
Thanks...I'll post updates in all caps
, much appreciated.
I don't mind Chandler, and am lukewarm about Fabian. If he's the best we have, he's the best we have. However, Cameron has been a complete failure thus far, and Gonzalez is going to peak at being solid IMO.
Well these younger players have played, and have done nothing. Its not like they haven't gotten chances, they just look awful once given the chance. Gooch also has nothing to do with this, he rarely ever played when he was healthy, and once he got hurt he was a shadow of his former self. That being said, its been quite a while since he was a serious contributor on the USMNT.
I like Shea, and I think he's our best bet for a midfielder to develop into something sooner rather than later, but he's not the guy I have issue with getting so many chances.
If we're going straight youth development here, why not play Mix? He's got some potential as well, and is very green and needs caps. Throw him out there, take a guy like Bradley or Dempsey out. Jozy shouldn't be getting time either, because he has proven that he isn't a leader and doesn't play 100% all game. Play Agudelo, get him some experience, and give him a chance to step up.
I don't think now is the time to be playing Agudelo and MIx, I'm high on them but their chance will come in the Gold Cup this summer. In qualifiers, Bradley and Dempsey are arguably our two top players, so it would make zero sense to take them out. If he were called in, Mix would take the place of Zusi or EJ. IMO, we'll stick with the guys we've been calling up thus far, and then give a lot of guys chances in the Gold Cup. Look for Cameron and Gonzo to be paired together for that to build chemistry together that will hopefully continue into the fall and Brazil (hopefully). I'd love to see wings with Gatt and Shea, even though it's a pipe dream. Maybe this summer....
I agree. I was trying to make the point about development of the new team vs. the importance of winning these qualifiers. If Boca in the back could help us qualify, I'd rather see him there to provide leadership and then try the new back lines and captains in the games where not as much is at stake.
I'm not a huge fan of EJ anyway, so I wouldn't mind seeing somebody new take his spot soon.
I actually really like our younger guys, between Shea, Gatt, Chandler, and Agudelo.
I'd rather not see EJ, but we don't really have a choice with all the injuries. I hope we get to see Joe Corona sometime these next two games, I have a feeling he's going to be special for the US. I can see what you're saying with Boca, but if you can't even get on the field with the bottom feeder in Spain's second division, you don't belong anywhere near the nats IMO. I'm thankful for all he's done for us over the years, but his time up until he can get a transfer. If he had come back to MLS when Rangers fell apart, he may very well be playing tonight.
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