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  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    Unofficial, but a version of the 2012-14 USMNT home kit has leaked. Red and White hoops.

    Not a huge fan of the horizontal stripes. The Holland away kit is really, really nice. Should I get Sneijder or Robben? Hmmm...

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  • 1- Barca sees Bale as a left sided Dani Alves. He does fit their system. But as a spurs fan, I'd like to keep him forever.
    2- Chelsea vs ManU?!?! You can't possibly be talking about the premiership title. Have you seen Man City?

  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    Unofficial, but a version of the 2012-14 USMNT home kit has leaked. Red and White hoops.

    Not a fan

    They basically brought the home kit from 1983 back ... yippee.......

    If winning was easy even losers would do it.

  • tdiddy said... (original post)

    Not a huge fan of the horizontal stripes. The Holland away kit is really, really nice. Should I get Sneijder or Robben? Hmmm...

    Glad I wasn't the only one who didn't like them guys. PS I'm a huge fan of the Dutch away also, but I already know who I'm getting. RVP!

  • TheUnderdogs said... (original post)

    1- Barca sees Bale as a left sided Dani Alves. He does fit their system. But as a spurs fan, I'd like to keep him forever. 2- Chelsea vs ManU?!?! You can't possibly be talking about the premiership title. Have you seen Man City?

    I'm going to assume you were reading earlier in the thread? This was started back in August, so yes I agree since then Man City has been much the best (besides their financials - just announced record losses for 10-11). They do have a tougher run-in the next few matches, with away trips to Anfield and Stamford Bridge, in addition to Newcastle and Arsenal at home. If they get full points out of all those matches...I don't even want to think about it.

  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    Glad I wasn't the only one who didn't like them guys. PS I'm a huge fan of the Dutch away also, but I already know who I'm getting. RVP!

    L29 million + Anelka + Kalou = RVP in Blue!!!!!!!!!! January 2012 baby. Oh, football rumors.

    He's been a one man wrecking crew this season, but I'd rather see Chelsea spend the money on Hulk or Cavani this summer. That's no knock on RVP...he's been spectacular. I would just prefer a younger, stronger player in our lineup. If we have Mata/RVP/Sturridge, that's not a lot of beef up front.

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  • TheUnderdogs said... (original post)

    1- Barca sees Bale as a left sided Dani Alves. He does fit their system. But as a spurs fan, I'd like to keep him forever. 2- Chelsea vs ManU?!?! You can't possibly be talking about the premiership title. Have you seen Man City?

    I don't think Bale wants to be a LB. He's so prolific on the wing. Also, Barca's most recent rumored planned offer was $35 million. City, ManU, Chelsea, and Madrid would all cross $50 million for him without thinking about it.

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  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    I'm going to assume you were reading earlier in the thread? This was started back in August, so yes I agree since then Man City has been much the best (besides their financials - just announced record losses for 10-11). They do have a tougher run-in the next few matches, with away trips to Anfield and Stamford Bridge, in addition to Newcastle and Arsenal at home. If they get full points out of all those matches...I don't even want to think about it.

    City looks great. Their financials for this year are a little deceiving as well since they added $35 million of misc expenses to this year's total to help ensure their accountability window for 2012. It will be interesting to see how they do if they get into the knockout UCL rounds as well.

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  • tdiddy said... (original post)

    I've avoided talking too much about it lately. Rough days for a Blues fan. If they fail to reach the knockout round, which is completely within the realm of possibility (Valencia is in good form), they need to gut the roster in January. I think AVB is the right guy long-term, but he's stuck with a lot of slop well past their primes. It was inevitable that they were going to take a step back at some point. Too many aging superstars and no immediate fill-ins. They've got a lot of young kids (McEchran, Lukaku, Romeu, Bartrand) but Torres was supposed to be the bridge...and he's an utter flop. They're the 6th...maybe 7th best team in the EPL right now with no improvement in sight. Malouda, Anelka, Kalou, Alex, and Drogba all need to go. Terry and Lampard are on their very last legs. Torres is a distressed asset, but I wouldn't be opposed to cutting losses, and shipping him back to Spain.

    Meanwhile, ManU will chase Sneijder again. Arsenal will chase Hazard and Remy again. City will chase Cavani and Pato. And we'll offer $50 million for Luka freaking Modric and $20 million for Cahill. SMH.

    Just revived this thread, no need to clutter the other one up.

    I have a bunch of friends and a roommate who support Chels so I hear pretty much everything you just said daily. Though, they all have this infatuation with Torres for some reason, my roommate just got a kit with Torres on the back. They don't realize Roman will do WHATEVER it takes to win, so wholesale changes really aren't out of the realm of possibility for January.

    They all hate AVB - personally I'd have him take over for Wenger in a heartbeat - he just has the wrong guys for his approach. I figured he would try to bleed some of the youngsters in a bit more, although I think Romeu played either this past weekend or against Valencia and I actually didn't know he was on the pitch.

  • Its going to be a battle this year for top 4. I had United, City, Pool and Chelsea as my 4 at the beginning of the season, but with Spurs dominating I might have to reconsider my picks. I see Chelsea and Arsenal on the outside looking in depending on what happens in January

  • As a Spurs fan, going back a few bits in the thread, the next 6 months are pivotal. A decision on the stadium situation and keeping 'Arry around might give the club the ability to pay Modric and Bale enough to keep them around. Given their current form, a CL return is looking like a solid possibility. That influx of $ will ensure them being strong for the next few years. But the stadium thing is the biggest hurdle. The additional income would allow their top earners to hit that mythical 100k per week number (which City will lavish upon anyone with a pulse).

    As for Chelsea, I agree that Roman will do anything to ensure a winner. AVB needs to clear out the old guard like JT and Super Frank and run with the youngsters like Mata, Sturridge, Romeu and company. They will always have the funds to bring in stars, so Hulk, Cavani and whomever else will remain in play. Despite all the rumors on Neymar, I still wouldn't be shocked to see him end up at the Bridge (or whatever the new stadium is called) when its all said and done.

    My 12/1 prediction is that the top 6 shakes out as follows:
    City
    United
    Spurs
    Gooners
    Chelsea
    Liverpool

    Injuries and the January window could change that, but on form alone, this is where we are headed.

  • If Arsenal get in to the top 4, I'd be elated. I conceded the fact they would miss out after that horrific run of form to start the year, losing Cesc and Nasri. Even though the Gunners and RVP have been doing well lately, I still don't see them getting in unfortunately. We'll see though.

    I need to see a team from England actually beat City before counting them out. After that I could see any of United, Chelsea, or Spurs come in second.

  • PS midfielder Lucas on Liverpool out for the year with an ACL. He has actually been massive for them this season (they used to boo him every time he touched the ball 2-3 years ago), going to see a lot more of Henderson and some of their younger guys now I'd imagine.

  • Agreed completely on City. I think they eventually walk away with this. But, they have some problem children and Mancini will be tested before this is said and done.

    Hard to ever rule out SAF entirely.

    On Arsenal, it was more a process of elimination. Their form has improved of late, and I don't trust Suarez Carroll and Kuyt to carry Liverpool. I don't trust Newcastle at all. And Chelsea's season hinges on what happens in January. So I think keeping RVP and maybe even adding a piece carries Arsenal back to the CL.

  • dwillforpres said... (original post)

    Its going to be a battle this year for top 4. I had United, City, Pool and Chelsea as my 4 at the beginning of the season, but with Spurs dominating I might have to reconsider my picks. I see Chelsea and Arsenal on the outside looking in depending on what happens in January

    I think Arsenal overtakes Liverpool personally. IMO...

    1. City
    2. ManU
    3. Arsenal (will stay hot IMO)
    4. Spurs
    5. Liverpool
    6. Chelsea
    7. Newcastle

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  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    PS midfielder Lucas on Liverpool out for the year with an ACL. He has actually been massive for them this season (they used to boo him every time he touched the ball 2-3 years ago), going to see a lot more of Henderson and some of their younger guys now I'd imagine.

    Shame to see him go down in a Carling Cup match.

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  • mugatu11 said... (original post)

    As a Spurs fan, going back a few bits in the thread, the next 6 months are pivotal. A decision on the stadium situation and keeping 'Arry around might give the club the ability to pay Modric and Bale enough to keep them around. Given their current form, a CL return is looking like a solid possibility. That influx of $ will ensure them being strong for the next few years. But the stadium thing is the biggest hurdle. The additional income would allow their top earners to hit that mythical 100k per week number (which City will lavish upon anyone with a pulse).

    As for Chelsea, I agree that Roman will do anything to ensure a winner. AVB needs to clear out the old guard like JT and Super Frank and run with the youngsters like Mata, Sturridge, Romeu and company. They will always have the funds to bring in stars, so Hulk, Cavani and whomever else will remain in play. Despite all the rumors on Neymar, I still wouldn't be shocked to see him end up at the Bridge (or whatever the new stadium is called) when its all said and done.

    My 12/1 prediction is that the top 6 shakes out as follows: City United Spurs Gooners Chelsea Liverpool

    Injuries and the January window could change that, but on form alone, this is where we are headed.

    I like Spurs. They're my solid #2 behind Chelsea. Anther thing to keep in mind...if Harry takes the England job next summer, a lot of the young guys will want to leave. Even with a new stadium, Spurs can't pay like Chelsea and Barca. If Barca offers $50 million for Bale, Spurs can't turn it down. Frankly, I think they're mad for rejecting $40 million for Modric. He's a nice player, but he's not a $40 million footballer. Is there a $40 million CMF on earth? Is Xavi even a $40 million player? Sneijder isn't. One thing is for sure...Spurs made tremendous, resourceful moves last summer. Scott Parker was the steal of the transfer window, and securing Adebayor on loan added great dimension to their squad.

    The plan for Chelsea is quite simple...I laid it out perfectly in FIFA 2012...

    1. Sell Malouda, Anelka, Drogba, Kalou, and Alex.
    2. Purchase Hulk for $30 million and Kyle Walker for $10 million.
    3. Bench Terry and Lampard
    4. Switch to a 4-4-2. Cech, Walker, Ivanovic, Luiz, Cole, Mikel, Ramires, Mata, Hulk, Sturridge, Lukaku
    5. Have Lukaku magically turn into the best player in the world by age 21.

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  • Diddy - I tend to agree on Modric. But he is the straw stirring the drink there. With Rafa a constant hamstring concern, Sandro and Parker more defensive minded, and Huddlestone seemingly incapable of staying healthy and living up to his potential, he is the one guy they have who can control the flow consistently to get the ball wide to Bale. Agreed if they get offered $50M on Bale too. I've loved watching him and often wondered why Ramos kept him out of a mediocre side, but for that money you can start raiding a few of the Dutch clubs for some of their up and comers.

    (Spurs fan rant coming...)
    As much as I agree on Modric's relative value, for Spurs he IS a must keep. There is no reason that just because they are not considered part of the big 4 that they can't become one. They may yet hit the financial lottery in terms of ownership. If I'm a zillionaire and looking to get into the EPL, they are hands down the best investment. Short leap to titles with the squad in place, in London (though a bad part), and with enough fans to build up the stadium and fill it consistently. They play free flowing attacking and attractive futbol. They have stars. They've got long standing ties to the US. So why not Spurs? And Levy thinks the same way. Even 'Arry has said as much recently. If they stay healthy (read - if King stays healthy, Dawson and Gallas come back and Kaboul keeps form), they have enough going forward to beat anyone. They won't win the title, but they SHOULD challenge for the CL yearly. (aaaaand break.)

    I actually agree on most of your plans, except for getting Walker for 10M. He is the guy, if I am Daniel Levy, I take an unbelievably hardline stance with. He's what everyone thought Glen Johnson could be (and arguably was for a short period). Big, lightning speed, good getting forward, and solid defensively (though prone to mistakes).

  • I would prefer him to stay (because I have a soft spot in my heart for Spurs), but I would be interested to see what Bale could do on another team (Barca, RM, etc). He disappears for long stretches because he stays out wide so much. I'd be interested to see him float around a lot more (Rooney).

  • mugatu11 said... (original post)

    Diddy - I tend to agree on Modric. But he is the straw stirring the drink there. With Rafa a constant hamstring concern, Sandro and Parker more defensive minded, and Huddlestone seemingly incapable of staying healthy and living up to his potential, he is the one guy they have who can control the flow consistently to get the ball wide to Bale. Agreed if they get offered $50M on Bale too. I've loved watching him and often wondered why Ramos kept him out of a mediocre side, but for that money you can start raiding a few of the Dutch clubs for some of their up and comers.

    (Spurs fan rant coming...) As much as I agree on Modric's relative value, for Spurs he IS a must keep. There is no reason that just because they are not considered part of the big 4 that they can't become one. They may yet hit the financial lottery in terms of ownership. If I'm a zillionaire and looking to get into the EPL, they are hands down the best investment. Short leap to titles with the squad in place, in London (though a bad part), and with enough fans to build up the stadium and fill it consistently. They play free flowing attacking and attractive futbol. They have stars. They've got long standing ties to the US. So why not Spurs? And Levy thinks the same way. Even 'Arry has said as much recently. If they stay healthy (read - if King stays healthy, Dawson and Gallas come back and Kaboul keeps form), they have enough going forward to beat anyone. They won't win the title, but they SHOULD challenge for the CL yearly. (aaaaand break.)

    I actually agree on most of your plans, except for getting Walker for 10M. He is the guy, if I am Daniel Levy, I take an unbelievably hardline stance with. He's what everyone thought Glen Johnson could be (and arguably was for a short period). Big, lightning speed, good getting forward, and solid defensively (though prone to mistakes).

    If Chelsea were serious about Walker, it would take at least $20 million. I can fudge the numbers on a video game. Heck, Barkley is supposedly a $30 million prospect at Everton. The numbers thrown around these days are ridiculous.

    I don't question Modric's value to Spurs. In essence, he is 'priceless' to their system, but $40 million is top flight striker money. Spurs are a great investment IF they can get a stadium deal. They need to play out of Tottenham to enhance their value.

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  • Speaking of Dutch talent...

    Nicolai Boilsen and Geroginio Wijnaldum were two of my most recent transfers. Boilsen supplanted Cole as my 1st choice LB. Wijnaldum is Hulk's understudy.

    Current bids in for Phil Jones and Frederik Sorensen from Juventus to be my new CB tandem. Also thinking about Yann M'Vila from Rennes to replace Essien, but he is the lone veteran that I have a sentimental attachment to. Love that dude.

    In real life, I'd love Chelsea to add De Bruyne from Genk and Argentinian Lucas Ocampos. With a couple CB's, they'd be a force in 5 years.

    This post was edited by tdiddy 3 years ago

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  • I had an Arsenal manager mode for three seasons or so and got bored of it. It really annoys me that the talent in the youth squad can't be loaned out. Love the idea of having the scouts and the youth squad, but there is still a ways to go until it is more realistic. I would get decent young talent but they wouldn't come close to cracking the bench let alone the starting XI, and then when they were put up for loan in July not one club bid on them. Frustrating to say the least.

    I started a new one with Leeds, so far so good. I didn't buy any players, sold some guys and used the money to get a top notch scout. He brings in decent talent and they go right in to my starting XI or on to the bench. Having a 60-65 overall as a 16-17 year old and watching them get astronomically better by having them get significant time is fun for me.

  • tdiddy said... (original post)

    Speaking of Dutch talent...

    Nicolai Boilsen and Geroginio Wijnaldum were two of my most recent transfers. Boilsen supplanted Cole as my 1st choice LB. Wijnaldum is Hulk's understudy.

    The Ajax youth system is sick, and there seems to be a pretty decent host of quality young Dutch players.

  • Huge proponent of Shaqiri due to his strenth, speed and agility. Can play across midfield and at wing as well.

    There are a lot of younger players on that game that grow to be forces.

    Ajax has always been an unbelievable source of great footballers. There is such talent and understanding flowing from the Oranje land, Spurs would do well to invest in these guys at a younger age to help them grow into VdV type players.

  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    I had an Arsenal manager mode for three seasons or so and got bored of it. It really annoys me that the talent in the youth squad can't be loaned out. Love the idea of having the scouts and the youth squad, but there is still a ways to go until it is more realistic. I would get decent young talent but they wouldn't come close to cracking the bench let alone the starting XI, and then when they were put up for loan in July not one club bid on them. Frustrating to say the least.

    I started a new one with Leeds, so far so good. I didn't buy any players, sold some guys and used the money to get a top notch scout. He brings in decent talent and they go right in to my starting XI or on to the bench. Having a 60-65 overall as a 16-17 year old and watching them get astronomically better by having them get significant time is fun for me.

    On the iphone version, you can send young players out on loan...but they don't have a full youth league...so that's the catch. The scouts are aces too. I just found a 17 yr old RB from Africa who's is already an 85.

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