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  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    Anyone else been watching Copa America? Its only broadcast in spanish by me but there have been some pretty exciting games and I usually have it on in the background. Now the quarter finals are getting underway, Argentina-Uraguay tomorrow should be an awesome match with big names. Its amazing how good Messi can be for Barca, but so underwhelming for his country, especially with all of the attacking talent he has around him in Di Maria, Higuain, Aguero, and Tevez. Just goes to show how the talented Barca midfield makes that much of a difference.

    Yes I have. I don't care that it's in Spanish.

    Honestly, Tevez is a waste for Argentina. He weighs down the side and shouldn't be starting. Aguero is in good form and meshes better with Messi's style. Couple them with Higuain, and that's their best combo. One other plus for Argentina...Romero has had a good tourney in goal.

    I know they struggled until the last game, but I expect more fireworks from the Neymar/Pato duo in the knockout phase. I LOVE Patos game, and Neymar is the next big thing whenever he moves overseas. Santos has played really well for Brazil as well. Shoul be a fun week.

    In other news, it now appears as though Nike could step in to increase their licensing agreement with Sneijder to support the wage difference between he an ManU. Also, Jozy Altidore is headed to Holland.

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  • tdiddy said... (original post)

    Yes I have. I don't care that it's in Spanish.

    Honestly, Tevez is a waste for Argentina. He weighs down the side and shouldn't be starting. Aguero is in good form and meshes better with Messi's style. Couple them with Higuain, and that's their best combo. One other plus for Argentina...Romero has had a good tourney in goal.

    I know they struggled until the last game, but I expect more fireworks from the Neymar/Pato duo in the knockout phase. I LOVE Patos game, and Neymar is the next big thing whenever he moves overseas. Santos has played really well for Brazil as well. Shoul be a fun week.

    In other news, it now appears as though Nike could step in to increase their licensing agreement with Sneijder to support the wage difference between he an ManU. Also, Jozy Altidore is headed to Holland.

    Jozy to AZ is a great move. I just hope it's permanent and not a loan.

    My big worries for us soccer, beyond rebuilding our backline, is club situation for mike bradley, jozy, and Freddy adu

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  • tdiddy said... (original post)

    Also, Jozy Altidore is headed to Holland.

    Finally to a place where he will not be behind a more established striker going into the season. I know the Dutch league isn't the highest quality, but if he can start producing more consistently - he has averaged roughly a goal a season over the past three years - that can only help the USMNT cause. Best of luck to him this season.

  • appoo said... (original post)

    Jozy to AZ is a great move. I just hope it's permanent and not a loan.

    My big worries for us soccer, beyond rebuilding our backline, is club situation for mike bradley, jozy, and Freddy adu

    Bradley got put in a poor situation at Villa, they had just signed a player who played his position and he couldn't break through the ranks. Not sure when his M'Gladbach contract is up but I can definitely see him going to either a better German team or an English team and contributing. With a fresh start for Jozy, you can only hope it will help him. With Adu, he really didn't do much on his 2nd Tier Turkish club, so IDK what to make of his two appearances during the Gold Cup. Hoping he can go back to a team in a top division somewhere in Europe, but either way he should be seeing regular time somewhere next season if he continues the form he showed during those two games.

  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    Bradley got put in a poor situation at Villa, they had just signed a player who played his position and he couldn't break through the ranks. Not sure when his M'Gladbach contract is up but I can definitely see him going to either a better German team or an English team and contributing. With a fresh start for Jozy, you can only hope it will help him. With Adu, he really didn't do much on his 2nd Tier Turkish club, so IDK what to make of his two appearances during the Gold Cup. Hoping he can go back to a team in a top division somewhere in Europe, but either way he should be seeing regular time somewhere next season if he continues the form he showed during those two games.

    Agree with most of this except the freddy part. I saw a couple of his matches in turkey and he was pretty good. I was actually hoping he'd get called up for Gold cup based on his play there.

    His contract with Benfica is like a huge weight. They won't just cut him, and they demand loan teams pay his full salary. They also want a legit transfer fee.

    If he was on a free, I think there would be a lot of interest in him. Upper level clubs in holland, France as an example. I mean, hes better than sacha, jozy, Agudelo, Bedoya etc.

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  • appoo said... (original post)

    Agree with most of this except the freddy part. I saw a couple of his matches in turkey and he was pretty good. I was actually hoping he'd get called up for Gold cup based on his play there.

    His contract with Benfica is like a huge weight. They won't just cut him, and they demand loan teams pay his full salary. They also want a legit transfer fee.

    If he was on a free, I think there would be a lot of interest in him. Upper level clubs in holland, France as an example. I mean, hes better than sacha, jozy, Agudelo, Bedoya etc.

    When is his contract up? I'd obviously like to see him succeed, being so young he can still factor into the USMNT plans for years to come if he continues to improve - which starts by getting consistent playing time on a decent team.

  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    Bradley got put in a poor situation at Villa, they had just signed a player who played his position and he couldn't break through the ranks. Not sure when his M'Gladbach contract is up but I can definitely see him going to either a better German team or an English team and contributing. With a fresh start for Jozy, you can only hope it will help him. With Adu, he really didn't do much on his 2nd Tier Turkish club, so IDK what to make of his two appearances during the Gold Cup. Hoping he can go back to a team in a top division somewhere in Europe, but either way he should be seeing regular time somewhere next season if he continues the form he showed during those two games.

    FWIW, there was an article on Bradley a few days ago which mentioned interest from a few Italian clubs. His agent also stated in the article that Italy is the current preferred destination by both Bradley and his father.

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  • WOW Argentina and Brazil both knocked out in the quarterfinals, didn't see that one coming. Can't believe Peru made it through to the semis either, I didn't read anything that suggested they had the squad to do it. Its been a fun tournament, lacking in the goal department a bit but other than that a good watch.

  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    WOW Argentina and Brazil both knocked out in the quarterfinals, didn't see that one coming. Can't believe Peru made it through to the semis either, I didn't read anything that suggested they had the squad to do it. Its been a fun tournament, lacking in the goal department a bit but other than that a good watch.

    You ready for a world where mexico is the best team in the western hemisphere?

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  • appoo said... (original post)

    You ready for a world where mexico is the best team in the western hemisphere?

    No, I'm actually scared even thinking about it, but thats a legitimate possibility after seeing the traditional powers in CONMEBOL compete poorly of late. It would have been really interesting had the full-power Mexico squad competed in this year's Copa America - I know that wasn't ever a possibility - and see how they would have faired.

  • Peru-Uruguay and Venezuela-Paraguay the semis of Copa America, who ya got? I don't see how Peru gets past Uruguay but I also didn't think they would get this far.

    I got the 'guays in the final. confused

  • Andrew Dzurita said... (original post)

    Peru-Uruguay and Venezuela-Paraguay the semis of Copa America, who ya got? I don't see how Peru gets past Uruguay but I also didn't think they would get this far.

    I got the 'guays in the final.

    Uruguay/Paraguay would be a bloodbath final.

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  • Uruguay Paraguay for one of the ugliest finals in soccer history. Would either team try to posses past half way?

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  • tdiddy said... (original post)

    Uruguay/Paraguay would be a bloodbath final.

    Well, let the bloodbath ensue. Should be a good one.

  • Hopefully it's better than this 7-0 drubbing ManU is putting on Seattle. I hope the Union put up a little bit of a fight against Madrid on Saturday. They did beat Everton tonight.

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  • Anyone catch the Ronaldo goal from last weekend? Pretty sick.

    If winning was easy even losers would do it.

  • Alexis Sanchez to Barcelona. They're working hard to complete a deal for Fabregas too. Good luck world.

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  • tdiddy said... (original post)

    Alexis Sanchez to Barcelona. They're working hard to complete a deal for Fabregas too. Good luck world.

    Guess villarreal wasn't willing to deal rossi. Have fun on the bench Pedro.

    I don't actually know why they are bringing in Fabregas. They can't start all 3 of Xavi, Iniesta, and Cesc. Not unless they move Busquets, and his defensive work is integral to the tiki-taka. Imo they are better off waiting a couple years, when Xavi is ready to take a smaller role.

    That said, I like what man utd is doing. Against Barca, you accept you lose possession, by a large amount. By getting Ashley Young and hopefully Sneijder, they get a much better cutting edge on the fly. That team might be over of the few that actually forces barca to back off it's high pressure somewhat, because of it's pace and skill in thee open field, and ability to maintain possession under pressure. With all due respect to valencia, giggs, and Carrick - they were overwhelmed by that high pressure. Young and sneijder won't be.

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  • appoo said... (original post)

    Guess villarreal wasn't willing to deal rossi. Have fun on the bench Pedro.

    I don't actually know why they are bringing in Fabregas. They can't start all 3 of Xavi, Iniesta, and Cesc. Not unless they move Busquets, and his defensive work is integral to the tiki-taka. Imo they are better off waiting a couple years, when Xavi is ready to take a smaller role.

    That said, I like what man utd is doing. Against Barca, you accept you lose possession, by a large amount. By getting Ashley Young and hopefully Sneijder, they get a much better cutting edge on the fly. That team might be over of the few that actually forces barca to back off it's high pressure somewhat, because of it's pace and skill in thee open field, and ability to maintain possession under pressure. With all due respect to valencia, giggs, and Carrick - they were overwhelmed by that high pressure. Young and sneijder won't be.

    ManU needs Sneijder. Their wings are very strong (I think Young will be a special player as a left wing), but central midfield of Giggs/Anderson/Carrick is lacking. RB, GK, and depth on their front line are also issues. Berbatov is becoming an issue, and if they're forced to dump him...are Macheda and Owen enough as the 2nd unit up front? They also need to get the Fabio/Rafael/Evans deal straightened out. They're weak on that side. Finally, is De Gea ready for big time Euro ball? He would be the least of those 3 issues IMO, but it's still a valid point. Bottom line...if they don't get Sneijder, they're in trouble in central midfield. If they do and De Gea pans out, they can compete with Barca. At the very least, they'd be heavy favorites in the EPL. Chelsea looks awful and needs major overhaul. Arsenal is dropping. City isn't cohesive. Spurs aren't good enough defensively. Liverpool, if Gerrard is fit, would be the main competition...not including any new transfers of course.

    BTW, I agree on Fabregas. I've always found him overrated, but he's a Barca academy guy and wildly popular with the other Spaniards on the team. I'm sure he'd manage to fit in well...even if it's as a super sub or fill in to spot Xavi more rest.

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  • MZizzle2

    tdiddy said... (original post)

    ManU needs Sneijder. Their wings are very strong (I think Young will be a special player as a left wing), but central midfield of Giggs/Anderson/Carrick is lacking. RB, GK, and depth on their front line are also issues. Berbatov is becoming an issue, and if they're forced to dump him...are Macheda and Owen enough as the 2nd unit up front? They also need to get the Fabio/Rafael/Evans deal straightened out. They're weak on that side. Finally, is De Gea ready for big time Euro ball? He would be the least of those 3 issues IMO, but it's still a valid point. Bottom line...if they don't get Sneijder, they're in trouble in central midfield. If they do and De Gea pans out, they can compete with Barca. At the very least, they'd be heavy favorites in the EPL. Chelsea looks awful and needs major overhaul. Arsenal is dropping. City isn't cohesive. Spurs aren't good enough defensively. Liverpool, if Gerrard is fit, would be the main competition...not including any new transfers of course.

    BTW, I agree on Fabregas. I've always found him overrated, but he's a Barca academy guy and wildly popular with the other Spaniards on the team. I'm sure he'd manage to fit in well...even if it's as a super sub or fill in to spot Xavi more rest.

    Disagree with you that RB is a problem for Man Utd. Rafael and Fabio are top class players and may be the two best young outside backs in the world. I don't see that as a weakness at all, it really is a strength to know you have two great players at the position.

    Also, De Gea is ready for the big time. He has an insane amount of talent and always played well in the big games at Atletico.

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  • I wouldn't call Rafael or Fabio world class...just very good for their age. For example, I don't think either one will be as good as Evra, Dani Alves, Sergio Ramos, or Ashley Cole. They look like guys who would end up at the same level as Leighton Baines. And honestly there's nothing wrong with that, you can win a champion's League trophy with Leighton Baines. You don't need world class at every position. Just a few key ones, and then surround them with guys who can get the job done.

    Actually, I think Utd easily has the 2nd best team in the world right now, and are set up to be continue to challenge Barca for the next 2 or 3 years, without a requirement for a big investment, if they can get Sneijder. He's the final piece. Obviously Madrid has a huge amount of talent, but compared to Utd and Barca, I think there's something off with them. I believe they still lack that world class striker, though I think perhaps they are being unfair to Benzema. The two Germans are very good though, and can dictate a match. I guess what I'm not sold in is the Argentinian, Di Maria, bringing balance to Ronaldo - and being that other dynamic attacking player to take the pressure off of Ronaldo. With Utd you have Rooney, Ashley Young, Chicharito, and Nani.

    MZizzle, with De Gea, the issue is maturity. He's what, 20? There's nothing like the media cauldron that is Man Utd, and we won't know if he's capable until he has a blunder, and we see how he reacts.

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  • appoo said... (original post)

    I wouldn't call Rafael or Fabio world class...just very good for their age. For example, I don't think either one will be as good as Evra, Dani Alves, Sergio Ramos, or Ashley Cole. They look like guys who would end up at the same level as Leighton Baines. And honestly there's nothing wrong with that, you can win a champion's League trophy with Leighton Baines. You don't need world class at every position. Just a few key ones, and then surround them with guys who can get the job done.

    Actually, I think Utd easily has the 2nd best team in the world right now, and are set up to be continue to challenge Barca for the next 2 or 3 years, without a requirement for a big investment, if they can get Sneijder. He's the final piece. Obviously Madrid has a huge amount of talent, but compared to Utd and Barca, I think there's something off with them. I believe they still lack that world class striker, though I think perhaps they are being unfair to Benzema. The two Germans are very good though, and can dictate a match. I guess what I'm not sold in is the Argentinian, Di Maria, bringing balance to Ronaldo - and being that other dynamic attacking player to take the pressure off of Ronaldo. With Utd you have Rooney, Ashley Young, Chicharito, and Nani.

    MZizzle, with De Gea, the issue is maturity. He's what, 20? There's nothing like the media cauldron that is Man Utd, and we won't know if he's capable until he has a blunder, and we see how he reacts.

    Agree with all this. Fabio/Rafael are very good players, but not world class. They are sufficient considering all the ground Nani and Ferdinand cover. It's only a real issue against an elite team like Barca. But then again, that's who they want to beat.

    I think De Gea will be great long term, but I wouldn't expect perfection at 20.

    Still, Sneijder is who they need to go over the top.

    I'm just so stunned at the lack of movement by Chelsea. Even if they land Modric, they have such a crowded front line with no presumeable cohesive combination. They should be sound defensively, but I don't see how all those strikers stay happy.

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  • Agree with apooo and diddy on the da Silva twins, they're going to be good but right now are not world class. De Gea was a great get long term as well, I could actually see him playing as well as Joe Hart did for Birmingham City in 09-10 when he was named PFA Keeper of the Year.

    You guys covered pretty much everything, I was golfing all day.

    Interested to see what side United put out against the MLS all-stars next week, Man U kicked the hell out of them last year hoping to see a better game this year.

  • I watched the game live...he's a king douche. Although, go YouTube Neymar clips from Santos. He has a patented full follow through fake PK that he gets away with every time.

    I also watched the Copa final...Forlan + Suarez = victories.

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  • Yea, that was a big time dick move on his part.

    I was watching it and thought "did he really do that" ... I first assumed I missed the whistle ... then I realize he is just a douche.

    He was promptly benched. The thing that really gets me is that once his teamates, the fans, and his coach game him shit he started acting like he heard a whistle.

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