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What a joke the NBA has become. Remember when players played hard for the love of the game? David Stern is the worst thing to happen to the game. He fixes drafts and even games in my opinion. For him to fine the Spurs and Popovich is a joke. Popovich is the greatest coach in the game, yeah you heard me...better than Phil Jackson. The man coaches a team he can rest whoever he wants, especially when his players are getting up there in age. I apologize for ranting, but this is a sports forum and I had to vent about this bull$&!%!
When Gregg Popovich decided to rest Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili for Thursday nightt a surprise.
This post was edited by CKpsu5220 17 months ago
I have one upvote left, and I am not afraid to use it!!!
If you are so hung up on players playing for the love of the game, then why wouldn't you object to benching your top players when all those fans paid to see the star players play
It's just pickup games now. Most boring thing ever.
Its the coaches decision. Its a long season and these guys are not in their prime. Have you ever watched European Soccer, coaches rest their players all the time. Liverpool has played a lot of young guys in some games to give the older players rest. If we were talking about a young player, then I say make him play.
I love the NBA, but Stern is a douche.
I haven't watched an NBA game in 5 years maybe, I have lost all interest in the NBA.
“Never trust a government that doesn't trust its own citizens with guns.”
Stern is awful... Whatever little reapect I had for him went out the window when he blocked that New Orleans/Chris Paul trade. It's a joke.
If the NBA played an NFL schedule it would be badass. Basketball is a great game with awesome athletes the problem is they play way to much. 82 games is beyond ridiculous. Play once a week and have single elimination playoffs and guys would go balls to the wall. Stars in the NBA take nights off even when they do play... raise the stakes.
Only this isn't....Liverpool soccer.
I don't pay much attention to the NBA other than keeping track of what's going on with teams, standings, etc... But from a fan's perspective, from a former child who used to go to a few Nets games when growing up and loving to be able to see a star come into the Meadowlands while my team stunk.........it is pretty lame of a team to bench their ENTIRE core group for a game like that. If they want rest, give one guy a day off here, give another guy a day off a day or two later, etc... Don't give them ALL off because you are playing a good team that you may lose anyway.
Sorry, but like it or not...the fans make the league go, not the players. With no fans, players don't make $ to even play. I'd be pissed if I was only able to afford 1 game a year and my sons and I chose that game so we could see Duncan before he retires...only to find out he sat out to rest. Yes...that does happen....parents plan their tickets for their kids like that.
This post was edited by md154 17 months ago
I would understand the frustration with going to a game and getting the B team but when you buy that ticket or plan the trip you aren't guaranteed anything. You would like to get the 5 best players on the team but you also know that there is a possibility of getting the last 5 guys on the bench. Just because you expect them to play doesn't mean their going to. I bought tickets to see the Buccos vs. Cardinals in Pittsburgh, got a good deal on a sunday game, my brother and I were pumped to see Pujols and he took the Sunday off. Oh well.
And no fans do not make the league go... the players do. There is a reason the D league plays in front of 300 people, because there are no stars. You pay to see a top notch product, without the best players you wouldn't be a fan.
No different than going to a Broadway play and getting the understudy.
“We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill
Maybe I am different than most fans, I go because I support the team. I am a Phillies fan, but I don't go to a game to see Halladay pitch (though its nice), I saw Blanton pitch. I love the game though, I love going to the ballpark. The real travesty would be a certain football team with a coach who thinks you have to pass the ball 50 times with no offensive line, that is wrong.
I brought up Liverpool because I root for them. In European soccer they play a lot of games. They have their league play and little cup tournaments. A lot of time they rest players for the small cup games because they are not as important. In an 82 game season not every game is important. The Spurs are in a comfortable position and they want their players rested. The bottom line is that I don't think its fair that Stern just decides he has to sanction the team. What a joke! The goal is a championship and that is what Popovich and the team wants. If he has to rest his players to make it through a long season then let him. The Spurs should have beaten the Heat without their star players anyway. Real fans could care less about the "star players" and more about the team as a whole.
The thing that really bugs me about sterns "significant sanctions" for the spurs is that they wouldn't be handed down to a lesser team that did the same time thing in a non nationally televised game. If the sixers benched holiday, Richardson, young and Turner for a road game against Memphis, stern wouldn't even notice. The sixers playing without holiday are pretty terrible, not to mention the other three. It's a coach's choice, and it might benefit the team in the long run. It's called managing tour team and it should be up to the organization.
Of course no one mentions that the Spurs neatly won the game. No way Stern does anything now. He really is an ass
This post was edited by Pennoyer 17 months ago
Spurs lost the game, big fella.
You must hate baseball.
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
No...because I dont want to watch a 0-0 tie and guys rolling around like they've just been shot only to jump back up 2 seconds later.
But you're right...the NBA has become a joke...it has been for years. They have some of the best athletes in the world yet they play the game like its a pick-up game after school
I don't think they should play an NFL schedule, but your right 82+ playoff games are crazy for the sport of basketball. The problem is the travel schedule they put teams under, Popovich benched his players because this would have been the 4th road game in five nights that is a lot of wear and tear on a body (especially on players as old as Parker, Duncan and Manu). On top of it the heat had a four day rest leading up into the game, Popovich knew the team had little chances of winning and would rather rest up for a key early-season game against the Grizz (they have one of the best records in basketball)
Nearly won. Nearly. Autocorrect sucks with fat fingers.
I think there is probably a little less variance with talent level between an understudy and his/her counterpart than there is between potential Hall of Famers and their backups. Not a good comparison IMO.
Not a good comparison to this situation IMO. I'm not talking about home team fans going to a game to see their team play. They have 82 opportunities to do that. I'm talking about a fan who only gets to see a team come to their stadium once or twice a year. Having a chance to go see a player(s) that they most likely won't get to watch play again. And okay, you mention Halladay vs Blanton. Suppose you were going to a game where Halladay, Howard, Utley, and Rollins were taking the day off to rest? I bet you would have felt a little cheated that game. Everyone understands if a player gets a day off here or there....but taking the entire starting lineup out??
I disagree with doing what they did regardless, but I can almost understand doing it at a home game where those fans have plenty of chances to see their players play.
I still have a problem with the concept regardless because you basically are giving a game away also. That takes away from the integrity of the game. Now I'm not saying they should be punished, they do have a right to do what they want for their team. But morally I think it's messed up. Like I said, why not just give them each a separate day off here or there? Why do all 3 or 4 of them at the same time? I bet a lot of fans in that stadium were disappointed to not see some of the "stars" come out that night.
With all that said...I've pretty much hated the NBA for years now. I grew up in the Bird/Magic era and can't stand what the NBA is like these days. I think Gene Hackman should be commissioner and institute a 4 pass rule before shooting.
It's about expectations not talent. If you bought tickets to see a huge star and he/she wasn't in the show the night you went, it would most definitively be an identical situation.
NBA scheduling is the problem. 6 road games in 9 days for NBA players is just ridiculuos. Pop did the right thing. Stern, fix the scheduling problems first.
NBA games don't end in a tie, but most superstars in the NBA flop just as much. I have seen LeBron go untouched, but act like he was shot with a buckshot and get free throws.
Same could be said about kickers, quarterbacks, and wide receivers. Soccer players literally roll around on the ground though. They are the biggest drama queens.
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