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Season 3: Episode 1/2 Valar Dohaeris
Readers of the books try and be polite and keep future events out of discussion of course :)
Trailors look good and I am pretty pumped for the new season.
Favorite Characters for fun: Trying to keep only what was in the show so far as my "Criteria" for deciding in the ever changing landscape
1) Jon Snow- He is at the wall, showing honor of a Stark, and its the freaking WALL with all that mystery haha
1a) Tirion Lannister - Just an awesome character always with something going on, and great wit
2) Arya Stark - I like her story lines. And Jacquin Hagar is pretty cool as a supporting character.
2b) Jamie Lannister- intersting in all he does really
3) Bronn - Bad Assed
4) Danerys - Interesting story line, history, and characters surrounder her (Toss in Jorah and Drago and her blood riders)
5) Little Finger (Petyr Baelish) - lots of intrigue
6) Davos - Lost of honor for a former pirate
7) Sam Tarly - loveable stooge
8) Rob Stark for showing some of Ned from his raising along with Jon in the same regard of course.
9) The Hound - Such anger and hate......and Pain. Interesting character.
10) Tywin Lannister....some say cocky, arrogant, I see confidence.
1) Sansa (so stupid in most everything she does imo)
2) Stanis sold out to darkness, and he is one who normally has honor, no matter how crude
3) Joffrey - Hate, that boy actor does a fine job.....cuz Im supposed to
4) Cersei - What a female dog...period lol
5) Viserys ...brat
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by Seltz 13 months ago
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If we're including all characters (and only the ones we've met so far who are still living):
1. Davos (not sure why, but I'm a big Davos fan)
8. The Hound
Jon Snow in the book is higher, but not in the show so much.
One of my favorite parts of the books/movies(I presume) is how much ones view of the characters can change. Very little in the way of PURE hero or PURE villain....more "real"
First hour is "catching up with the characters" time it seems
Forgot Ser Barriston in the Favs list. Who doesnt like "one of the greatest warriors of Westeros" lol
OK, my memory might suck. But I didn't think he met Dany in Astapor in the books.
This post was edited by MSJ56 13 months ago
Yes. That whole storyline is a bit off from the books. I was surprised to see Selmy back so early in the season.
I do think they wrote Strong Belwas out though, he should have been the one in the last scene, not Selmy.
Part of me is still holding out hope they keep certain characters alive, where they did not in the books.
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I'm only about half way through the 3rd book actually. I just started reading it a few weeks ago. I still get confused with all the characters. Especially because there are pretty long gaps in between Dany's chapters it's tough to remember everything.
Ned is coming back to life
I dont remember exactly where they met, but it was earlier with Belwas as Astan the old man with the quarterstaff first I believe...then later revealed as Selmy was it not? I thought they met around Quarth when they attempt to assassinate her or something similar
I hope they didn't skip out on Sam and his big moment. Here's to hoping they included that scene.
Yeah, it happens towards the end of their time in Qarth and it's both of them together. Hopefully they don't write out the scene where Selmy reveals himself altogether, I liked that part.
Ok it was Clash of Kings around page 880 that it happened. In Quarth. A Quartheen attempted to give the gift that opened and Astan Whitebeard(Selmy of course) killed it under the butt of his staff. Belwas was there of course as Jorah noticed the 2 following them before they interceded to help.
Hard not to love the Sam storyline.
I feel like the storyline of Robb and Catelyn is straying off quite a bit. And I'm starting not to like the actor who plays Robb. He just tries to be too proper and honorable and it seems forced. I don't know maybe it's just me.
If it wasn't for the dragons, I would have no interest in the Danaerys storyline at all. It was just not exciting in the first two seasons and if I hadn't read the books I'd feel even stronger about the general uselessness of it
Disagree, I l love Danaerys. She is the one true Queen of Westoros. I pray for her health every night before I go to bed.
I have not read the books. With that being said, has this Belwas character you speak of been on the shows before?
No. He is introduced with Selmy in the scene you quoted and never in the show. If the shows had followed the books completely, we would have been introduced to him in that last scene with Selmy's identity still unknown, just a random old guy would have saved her.
Actually, I think they're doing a fairly good job with Robb and Cat. Having read the books, I'm enjoying the producers version of the stories. He's being forced to take a lot of liberties, but I think he's going a great job. He basically staying true to the framework of the books, and the framework of the characters - for the most part.
There's a few disagreements I have. Like for some reason they tried to humanize Tywin Lannister for a little bit - he basically has no soul really. Arya should be more bada$$, and Sansa much more courageous.
But again, I think they do well here.
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I think Arya has been pretty bada$$ so far. I guess they didn't show the scene of her killing the dude at Harrenhal, but other than that.
I'm curious to see how they play out the Karstark dilemma.
I don't really find Sansa to be much more courageous in the books. She's just kind of there and follows whatever anyone tells her to do - dad, cersei, etc. (used etc. to not give away what happens over the next couple books). I guess I'm just not a huge Sansa fan in general. It's also tough to judge her because the other characters in the series, including most of the children, are much stronger and more independent, so it downplays her strength/courage.
It's going to be an interesting season in general. I'm fascinated to see how they play this out.
Did you also notice how much they cut out of the Theon story? I'm thinking they're going to circle back to him and flesh that out some more.
The hard part of this is no one knows how the story ends. I've read all the books and I can only vaguely guess at how it's going to play out - there's still so many story lines that just about anything can happen.
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