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As Americat. We have no earthly idea.
PENN STATE FOREVER
I knew the players played in pain and did some less than smart stuff to stay on the field but that article is just unbelievable.
Same here..... the catheter in the leg and nearly having it amputated.... To a point I am not sure how the game survives... If they lose the court battles... the money will be astronomical.
It should be an interesting court battle. Reading the article he did all this of his own free choice, the league/team didn't make him. But the team did have the resources available to medically cover up the pain.
I think the argument is the NFL does not let them know hey this will mess you up big time...
Even if they did, do you really think any of these guys who are about to be paid millions would say, "Nah, instead of getting paid lots of money for playing a sport I've been playing for X years and is all I know, I'm good. Don't want to risk it."
Of course that is one way to look at it and the players union only defense, "nobody told us". But realistically does the league have to have the players sign off on a disclaimer that "playing the game of football may be damaging to your body"? They knew it in middle school, high school and college. I'm just not a big fan of lawsuits to sue the big money because the big money didn't state the obvious.
Jason Taylor all but says this in the article. I know the risks but I don't care, I just want to play, that's what I do. There is one reference to the check as well.
You may take the sport to an un-watachable level.... What if every single player had to pass a concussion test each week to play the following week... how many guys would be out? A lot more than currently... and what if it was a season-ender regardless of severity. It is the rules that follow that kill football. People love the kill shot and the damage. Take it all away and boom goes the NFL.
The Seau death is bad for the NFL.... really bad. Time will tell.
They got paid and JT could have quit anytime. I would think the mortality rate is much higher in alot of other professions. What are the health risks of being an electrician? I bet more people get severely disfigured/die from being electrocuted on the job. How many roofers fall and get severely injured. What are the respiratory issues of working in a factory ect... every job has its hazards, some more dangerous than others. Until these guys are misled and told football is 100% safe and there is no chance of injury I see no problem here. Every single guy knows the price they may pay and if they feel that price is too high they are free to quit and sell insurance anytime they want to. I don't feel bad for JT. That was his job. He got paid and could have walked away from the game along time ago instead of dealing with the problems in the article. And if he didn't want to walk away because he loved the game and loved the glory then that's his problem.
Agreed, very bad. As ugly as that situation is, it is ridiculous to argue that he didn't know. Is it an opportunity to look at rules and how the game is played? Absolutely. But to go back to all NFL players in the last x years and hand them a check because the NFL didn't disclose is not realistic.
I agree. These lawsuit may force the NFL to adopt rules like 2 concussions and your done which would have the players filing another law suit against the NFL for not allowing them to play.
Watch the recent documentary "Head Games" by the guy that did "Hoop Dreams". I saw an interview from him as well that makes an interesting comment that Football could go the path of boxing, once an extremely popular sport, now somewhat relegated in society, and certainly nearly every athlete is there because it's their 'only way out'.
Between that movie and the SI article that talked about CTE and reduced brain wave activity in HS school kids during the season with NO serious trauma or head shots, I think I've made the decision that my boys won't ever strap on a helmet. They have too much going for them not to mention no genes indicating NFL potential to risk the damage.
Our Middle School alone had 3 serious concussions and a spinal injury that put a kid in a wheelchair in the first month of the season....
Wow. I do not know wether to celebrate his toughness or be shocked at his borderline poor choices. It all comes down to the individual I guess. What you want and what you are willing to give up to have it. Regardless it is something that goes hand and hand with physical activity. He was quite a football player though and this sheds some light on his less than normal performances at times.
I wonder if he went through the same preparation for dancing with the stars? *sarcasm*
Horse racing was #1 then boxing then baseball now football.... If I had to guess
Soccer / basketball will be the top 2 sports in the US come 2030
As soft as our country is becoming, I wouldn't be shocked by that at all.
Jason did play through all the pain of his own free will. Still, for every case like his that you hear about, I'm sure there are many others that we don't. This isn't the same game that was played even 30 or 40 years ago. Players are selected who can deliver more force in a collision than others. If you don't hit with extreme force, you're pulled for someone who will. Like it or not, it is a problem that isn't going away. As for a solution, beats me.
This post was edited by fullback dive 18 months ago
"You can take bowl games and you can take external things from people, but you can't take a warrior's heart."
There's a difference here though and an important one. All those examples you list involve accidents, things that happen when something goes wrong or a mistake is made. If an electrician gets zapped, it's because someone didn't turn off the power or he wasn't careful. If a roofer gets hurt, it's because he fell.
The the case of the NFL, you have players doing everything right, wearing the most state of the art protection consistently, and even if they never screw up and nothing goes wrong, they will will suffer serious head trauma. Maybe there is a relevant example that I'm not thinking of, but what other job can you do everything by the book and take all safety precautions where you have this level of risk even if nothing ever goes wrong and no accidents happen?
In all the jobs you are talking about the risk is there, but it takes a triggering event for it to be realized. The triggering event in the NFL is simply playing the game by the rules. Literally, the game itself is harmful. being an electrician or a roofer is not harmful, the accidents that happen in those professions are harmful. Being in an unsafe air environment at a factory might have been common back in the day and you could say the job itself was harmful, but not anymore with the workplace laws in effect now.
The other unique thing about the NFL and some of the labor examples made is that the harm of injury is immediate, but the long term effects of head trauma might not appear for decades after they stop playing. IMO, the NFL has a responsibility to research the issue, collect data, make changes as needed to rules and equipment, and then provide informed consent detailing everything they know on the issue. from there it is up to the players to decide IMO.
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Why don't players sue other players? I mean, there are illegal hits knocking players out of the game, some for multiple games.. Could also cause them a shot at their jobs and tons of money.. It would be interesting to see a player take another to court for a helmet to helmet hit that ruined their career...
“We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill
The deadliest profession of all...fishermen. You can follow every protocol, but Mother Nature wins if she wants to.
Was gonna say the same thing. This is what causes me to throw up a red flag. (Which I don't want to do because I always liked Taylor)
But something seems weird here. He was in THAT bad of shape, that he then decided to go on a dancing show? Doesn't add up to me. I would think in his off-season he would simply want to rest and do nothing..
DISCLAIMER: I haven't read full article yet...but that's the first thing I thought of after reading the first page.
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