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Honestly, anyone who consitently bitches about the "arrogance" of another team's fans (including our own), and ESPECIALLY when they have a notoriously arrogant fanbase themselves (including us), is a pretty big bitch. All fanbases, especially big ones, are arrogant. Hell Illinois has really arrogant fanbases and they suck!
Biggest issue Ohio State has on defense...
They generate ZERO pass rush.
MTayl, I think 1 match-up that bears watching is whoever is blocking Noah Spence, he has been getting on the field more and more each game and providing pressure off the edge, this has made Hankins and Simon more effective, plus he's coming home, i really think he is a wildcard in this match-up. If we just sit back and let McGloin have time we will get picked apart with the weakness of our LB's and safties. I believe we have 2 talented corners but the back half of our defense has been poor to say the least. Talking earlier to you guys I really think turnovers are the key for OSU, they have gotten away with being -3 on the road against MSU and -3 at home against Purdue, you normally don't win those games. The one thing I want to watch is our OL against your front 7, our OL has been the most consistent and improved group, it was thought to be a weakness, but I believe if you watch OSU games you would come away impressed with the way they have controlled the trenches.
Given the speed of Miller, I would imagine we see more of Hull this week.
The reason there is a slash in there: Micah Hyde
Mason, I agree. However I sid elsewhere in the thread tried to do just one on one matchups and limited to three on both sides. I'm going to write more later but I'm working on a $2 billion budget right now so I can't haha.
Dear Lord, Who in the heck allowed MTay to oversee $2 bill. hahaha
That's just one agency, and there are multiple scenarios. I'm eating lunch now. Shit sucks.
Saw this quote:
"Asked if [Braxton] Miller's injury issues will impact his play-calling against Penn State, offensive coordinator Tom Herman said, 'None. We've got to win the game. ... That won't factor into any of our decisions.' "
I think I know what he's trying to say, but at the same time it just seems very cold. Like he doesn't care about the player's well-being as long as they can run the offense for a win.
This post was edited by psubills62 18 months ago
Easy bills, think you're reading way to far into that one.
Never said that's what he meant...just saying that's how it came across.
I'm not reading this whole thread, so someone may have said this, but ST and turnovers aren't the "keys" to this game anymore than they are every game. It's a "simpler" thing (simple to say, not so much to do):
(1) If Braxton Miller really is playing, our DE and likely spy (Hodges) need to contain him on the run. If that happens, OSU is completely screwed because they simply cannot move the ball on us if Miller doesn't break a few big ones to spring his receivers on broken plays. He does not do well on designed plays, and just makes stuff up until blown coverage happens 7-8 seconds after the snap. If we keep him in the pocket where he cannot threaten the LOS (and draw the coverage up, off the WRs), then OSU's offense is pedestrian. We are the best front 7 OSU will see, so we may succeed where others have failed, but this is the key to winning, because BO'B absolutely, 100% will find many ways to abuse the Buckeye defense.
(2) If Braxton Miller doesn't play (I really don't believe Meyer that he's 100%, because Miller came off the field limping like a 90-year-old granny who just got beat by a lead pipe), I have NO idea what to expect from Guiton or whatever his name is. He, frankly, scares me more than Miller. Similar to when their QB - the white pocket QB - came in a few years back and torched us. I'm not confident that our secondary can handle their WRs with a competent passing attack, so this route would likely come down to our ability to get pressure on OSU (good to see Hill and Massaro doing work Saturday).
Basically, without the benefit of a heavy review of what OSU does when Miller is out, I really can't make a detailed analysis, but it comes down to this: if Miller plays per (1), it's going to be a clear and fairly easy win for one team or the other. (2) is a toss-up, though the coaches may have a say in that which I can't since I haven't seen much of the Miller-less Buckeyes.
This post was edited by psume06 18 months ago
If it's Guiton and I'm not believing that for one minute (OSU will sacrifice Miller's health for a win in this one), you will see the ball handed off to Hyde 25-30 times.
If that's the case, then we win easily. From what I saw, though, he was a more polished passer, and that scares me. I may have just seen a few nice throws while Purdue was scrambling to figure out how to defend a new QB.
I think the main throw you saw was broken coverage by Purdue.
I actually didn't see the big play. I saw a few decent passes early. Still, I'll take your word since it sounds like you saw the whole thing.
Carson is doing a fine and underrated job this year, especially stuffing the interior running game. That said, Hull needs to be the MLB on 3rd and long. Carson just isn't fast enough to keep up with Miller (not that Hull is, but he has a better shot).
I wouldn't put too much stock into what anyone says about Miller's health. I hope the kid is healthy and not seriously hurt...but no coach, at any level is going to come out and say...well, he's not healthy, and our playcalling will change if he's not.
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
Farrell v. Simon ??
Carter v. Klein blowout
McGloin v. McGloin ??
Miller v. Carson/Hull lose
Smith v. Amos lose
Stoneburner v. Hodges win
It seems Braxton will be playing, is scheduled to practice Tuesday... the injury ended up being a "whiplash" type thing...no concussion symptoms, but very stiff/sore neck today...
Whether he's 100% or not won't really be known until Saturday...If it changes the way he plays, like not running out of fearing injury, then nowhere near 100%....if he can take off and not run hesitantly then I'll believe he's 100%...
Now to Guiton....not nearly the threat to break long TD runs, but is a good runner....he will be serviceable running while scrambling, but don't think we'd see nearly as many designed runs for him due to risk of injury takes us to a true unknown at QB...
Oddly enough, more of the playbook is open to Guiton though as he is a better quick read passer...he utilizes Stoneburner more than Braxton does and actually can go through his progression better than Braxton...
Two different teams based on who's at QB....my gut is our best chance of winning is with Braxton from the get go....If PSU is ahead by a couple scores in 4th Qtr, I think Guiton is our better chance to have a successful passing game...
The U.S. government...that is who..
i think the game comes down to 3 OSU aspects, and 2 PSU aspect.
1) Will Ohio State get pressure on the QB without blitzing? Even with blitzes, there hasn't been any pressure on the QB in the last 2 games.
2) Will Ohio State tackle? Whether you're a buckeye fan or not, this team has been lousy at tackling.
3) Big Plays. Ohio State's offense lives off of them. They got 1 vs Michigan State and scored just 17 pts. They got 2 vs Purdue and scored 29, in a game that the Buckeyes absolutely should have lost, but to their credit won.
1) 85. As in number of plays. Anything over 85, and PSU wins this game. I don't see the depth on defense for OSU to keep up with that pace.
2) Special Teams: PSU's special teams have been nothing short of abysmal.
I have 2 outcomes in mind. I can see Penn State winning by 3+ TD's, and I can see Ohio State winning a close game.
I don't think Ohio State will score over 20-23 points on Saturday. If they do, they'll win the game. if Ohio State doesn't improve dramatically on defense, PSU is going to score...and I think that's going to happen anyhow. This is not a vintage Ohio State defense. They are wrecked by injuries, and they are just a hot mess at LB. The amount of extra hits Miller is taking a toll on his body. Reminds me a lot of Denard Robinson, and how early in the year he'll be running circles around cats. By October/November, he's banged up, less effective and the offense struggles to be as effective as it was. Same feeling I get here.
Just my take on this game.
So PSU, what is your biggest area of concern from a team stand point, obviously being a Buckeye fan I know our defense is our weekness (wierd saying that) spefically our LB's and Safteys, I have watched many of your games this year and have watched as you have progressed with each game. I have my opinion on what I have seen, not saying it's right but just what I have seen, I watched a majority of the NW game, turned most of the 4th qtr off, missed the fireworks! I think PSU had a challenge stopping there spread offense, from what I have seen PSU has a solid D as well as a balanced O, they are not deep so injuries would hurt your squad more than most teams (you can the NCAA for that) the depth issue really hurts your team in the special teams arena, I believe PSU is vulnerable in this area. Just some random thoughts as we all figure out how Mtayl is in control of 2 billon dollars lol!
In the 5 games that OSU didn't score more than 50 pts., they're averaging a hair under 27 pts per game. Including a 1 pt. win over MSU and that OT win at home against Purdue. NOTE: 27 pts. per game doesn't include the OT TD from last week.
In the three games where OSU scored more than 50, they averaged 57 pts. per game. But that also included a 3 pt. winning margin against INDIANA !?!?!
October 12, 2013. PSU 43 - UM 40 (4 OT). Unfortunately this fan wasn't around long enough to see it!
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