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I am pumped up about his announcement tomorrow! I think it ends up being good news for PSU. Is anyone else a little perplexed at his lack of high quality offers though? Michigan State, Missouri, Mississippi State, and Rutgers are there, but of a kid that seems really highly regarded by most recruiting services, I as little surprised that he doesn't have more high Div. 1 offers. Any thoughts.......
Yeah pretty much exactly as you said. Really excited about his commitment, but surprised his offer sheet isnt as extensive. But hey I'm not complaining, less offers means the better chance we get him.
This post was edited by WeAre888 10 months ago
Eh, not too worried. I think a Penn State offer itself carries a ton of weight given how well our staff evaluates. Especially with QB's.
I'm wondering if its due to the fact that he was originally a 2015 kid but reclassified to 2014
This post was edited by psu2013 10 months ago
Wasn't Clayton Thorsen...the kid going Northwestern the first QB OB offered?
Did he have an offer before Thorsen?
Ya, you guys are right. My Bad.
This time change is messing with me.
Add in he is Canadian, not as much exposure and questions about overall talent that these kids compete against.
You can't fool us. It's all the freedom. It's messing with your head.
"PSU a 3 to 4 win team" - New-era, September 2012
He's raw and inexperienced. He has the tools, but he is not the kind of kid who will come in and compete for a starting job day 1. His upside is very, very high though.
Not sure raw is the word I've heard used to describe him.... What people usually say is 1) not an A+ arm, but good overall size, and 2) smart kid with an extremely high football IQ.
And I'm fine with that combo in my QB in college.... not everyone can have Hack's natural arm-talent.
Pumped for O'Connor as well!!!
Look at the schools that offered and the offense they run. I'm certainly not perplexed or worried about it for a second.
"One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."
How do you know how well the staff evaluates when most of their players have never even set foot on the field?
Do you wake up in the mornin' and say, "I'm puttin on my big boy pants. Look, I'm wearin' a belt. I got big boy pants on."
@meyer 4 prez I'm glad Bill K and Alex G keeps it real with us, instead of getting our hopes up.
He has only been in the US for one year and he played in what looked like a running/option offense. His transition into the 2014 class also may play a factor.
He throws a nice ball and has all the tools. Just needs to be refined a bit. I'm highly encouraged by the reports that he's already showing a lot of improvement in his short time at IMG.
Very excited about O'Connor.
“We’re doing things we couldn’t imagine,” says safety Stephen Obeng-Agyapong. “But we’re doing them together.”
Odd thing is that it seems a ton of schools tend to follow with an offer for a bunch of kids once that PSU offer comes in. Wreaks of pjone.
This post was edited by LaJollaLion 10 months ago
He's definitely raw. Everything he learned up until last season was self-taught in Canada.
This post was edited by getmyjive11 10 months ago
Can you answer my question?
How do you know if the staff can evaluate when most of their recruits have not even set foot on CAMPUS much less the field?
Most of the staff has held spots either with Penn State (LJ and Vandy) and other respectful schools that show they know how to recruit young men out of high school.
I've said the same thing. We don't know with any certainty at this point. However, he appears to be doing a fabulous job of identifying particular players he wants for his system, and getting those players to commit. And those players tend to have decent ratings as per the various recruiting services, and often get other big-name schools in on them once we offer (and the respective rankings often go up). I think that chain had led folks (like me) to believe that his players will perform well for us.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by strez 10 months ago
Cool the jets a little. Crombola has a point. Although the kids BOB and staff have recruited the last 2 years are very good in HS and have the rankings, no one knows what type of players they will end being on the college field. We hope they pan out, but there have been a lot of "quality" players going into college and end up do nothing on the field. I'm not saying this is the case, but at this point we don't know if any of the kids BOB has recruited will translate into quality players because it is too early in the cycle to know for sure.
Nobody can. But there is circumstantial evidence of good evaluations:
1. PSU has often been the first big school to offer kids who end up with many big offers the past two seasons
2. PSU has often offered kids with pedestrian rankings over kids with higher rankings earl, only to see their rankings fly up the boards
No, they don't prove good evaluations because none of them have played, even the ones who didn't sign with PSU. However, it is pretty decent evidence that other well respected coaches and talent evaluators have agreed with PSU's assessments after the fact.
It's not as black and white as you want it to be.
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