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Nick Scott was rated an 88 today. Do you guys think that accurate or will he be higher or lower by the time he steps on campus. Im not a big ratings guy but its nice to seekids get ratedwith what hey deerve. im not sure if this was posted, if it was just lock it.
Look at what are kids from last year were rated when BoB and co first offered them and where they ended up. Almost all rose, minus Mahon for some odd reason.
If he camps hard, as he's supposedly said he wants to, I could see him getting into low to mid 4's
One word. Higher
WE ARE! And we will always be...
I think he is a low four star guy, so if he camps and has a good senior season he should move up a bit.
For a guy with few offers and who only ran right for a year that's pretty good. Hits up some camps this year he'll move up. Either way, he's ours and I'm more than happy to have him committed.
I think all 3 to date will be higher by cycles end. Regardless, give em all 81's and I am still pleased. Three '14 kids with offers before '13 calendar started. :)
Suck It Emmert!! and "Sorry for not being sorry for being a Penn Stater" - Philafan
who cares about stars
Getting the kids the staff targeted first and early…always a good sign considering our staffs track record.
Still love how Hack started like what, 127 I think and finished 7 and the number one QB in the nation…
Trust the experience of identifying talent in OB, Mac, LJ, Vandy and my favorite offensive position coach Mr. Stan Hixon.
Seriously, its remarkable what Hixon did with ARob in 1 year…if I am the young WR's on our roster I am salivating.
Hopefully this becomes a trend. Would love to have a sophomore like Reid jump aboard early next year.
“We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill
Should note that zero Penn State commits dropped in rating last year. About six had their ratings increase during the cycle (Hackenberg, Bell, Cothren, Nelson, Issah, Ferguson), and the others didn't change from the initial rating (some of whom were rated late, such as Jordan Smith, Neiko Robinson, Anthony Smith, etc.).
I'd expect Scott and Reeder's ratings to rise. Allen is about where he should be due to size. Still a terrific weapon.
Fact is, all three were top targets by the staff. Whether or not the recruiting services recognize their true talent, I'm very happy with all three. Some kids like Wartman and Mahon deserve those fourth stars and just don't get them. That's how it goes sometimes.
^^^ This is really it.
IMO, to get a better feel for the recruiting class, don't go by stars. Go by what plan (i.e. plan A, plan B, plan C, etc.) the kids were.
We never really know *exactly* where each kid was on the coaches board, but we can usually make a good estimate -- And to me, plan A kids are 5*, plan B kids are 4*, plan C = 3*, etc.
So, IMO, based on when these kids got their offers, we have three 5* recruits.
[Disclaimer: All rating systems are flawed, and obviously my system has it's flaws too. I just think it's a better guideline than recruiting service stars/ratings, primarily because the evaluations were done by actual football coaching staffs (in this case, ours) rather than homer evaluators at recruiting services. No offense to those at 247 -- or any of the other services -- but when it comes to evaluating talent, they can't compete with our staff, or many other staffs. I don't think that's an insult.]
i agree with you guys im not a star guys. Ive seen so many 5 stars turn into nobodys and 2 stars turn into 5 stars and with the staff we have in place im very cofidant these 3 guys will be great contributors. do you guys see any of the three guys we have making an early impact. i feel like allen and scott will be great special tem players for us early considering they are above average speed and both have great moves.
More than anything his offense makes him hard to rank. He is similar to Curtis Dukes in that way, whose HS offense was very similar.
What I'm sure the analysts want to see is him running downhill between the tackles.
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“We’re doing things we couldn’t imagine,” says safety Stephen Obeng-Agyapong. “But we’re doing them together.”
Reeder is by far the most physically ready to go of the three, not really close. Scott needs to grow a bit, but I think he could very well get some reps somewhere, likely on STs. Though I prefer him to RS.
MTayl, what Division did you play in and how much of a jump was it from HS to college for you in terms of the size and strength of the guys you were playing against?
This is usually the most important thing to me. It indicates that the staff is able to secure the guys they really want, and that's successful recruiting. Even Dorian Johnson last year; he was a guy they really wanted (before he blew up), and they were able to get him. Of course, we all know what happened later on, but that's a different story. Point is, I don't much care what the ratings are as long as the coaches are able to get the guys they want most.
Even at the lower division. I was one of the smaller guys on the line. However, most of the bigger guys I played against (like D1 size) I loved going against because I knew if they were actually good football players they would be at a bigger division. There is a jump from HS to any division. I do like to pay attention to the size of schools for the simple reason that I met tons of all staters from small schools that wouldn't have sniffed the field at my HS. The biggest thing is the speed of the game. Some guys get it, some don't.
i remember a quote by joe...... "we make good athletes great players."
Agree(maybe slight difference in the small school thing) College sports is much different. You take the best from a HS and put him on a team of 'equals', generally speaking of course. And play agaisnt others of the same caliber, again, generally speaking.
Instead of teams having 0 or 1 or 2 big men on an OLine or DLine, they have all larger boys.
Instead of teams having 0 or 1 or 2 pitchers on a team that can toss 85mph and have multiple pitches, a large majority can.
Instead of....pick the team, sub similar numbers...you get the point :)
Pretty much all sports as well, the speed of the game is much different. With each level you rise in sports as well, determination and dedication also factor in (talent has to be present as well at the upper levels) as it is harder to just go out and wing it on gameday like it was in HS. Gotta put in some work unless you are one of those rare gifted ones that come along now and then. Deion Sanders for example who didnt give a rats arse for working out, was pretty good. Prolly didnt even have to warm up to run a slow 4.35 on a cold day lol.
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Based on current ratings I'd expect Reeder to be the biggest riser of the 3. I could easily seem him in the 90-92 range. If Scott goes to some camps where recruiting people can get a look at him I think he will sneak into that low 90's area. He is the type of athlete that should show really well in the camp circuit. I also think Allen's rating is about right.
I can tell you this, none if the three guys currently committed will get four stars on rivals. They will never let that happen after what they claimed post sanctions.
That isn't true. Mike Farrell has already admitted defeat, and taken his words back.
As for the original question, I think Reeder will rise. He's gonna surprise a lot of people on the camp scene - he's big & athletic.
One of the Rivals guys intimated that Reeder may not hit the camp circuit since he play lacrosse....
"Penn State has taken a lot of punches in the last six months and it's time to punch back" - BOB
Speaking of him playing lacrosse, did you see his highlights?! Holy s***! Very impressive. Also, It's evident that he enjoys hitting people.
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