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If any of that were true, I would have been out back in 2000 vs. Purdue or when Williams, King, Butler, Norwood went crazy with Robinson in 2005. I think you know that comparing schemes to meaningful traditions is apples and oranges.
I've never understood the big deal about jerseys either way. Even Bills fans talk all about how they like/dislike stripes on the shoulder, whatever. I'm not too picky when it comes to uniforms.
No matter what happens...it's not the uniforms that defines anything. Is it a great tradition? Certainly. But it's always going to be about the young men in the jerseys, not the jerseys themselves. We can still recruit quality student-athletes even with flashy uniforms.
Amen bills. Amen.
WE ARE! And we will always be...
I completely understand you weren't trolling, I'm just trying to show you what our uniforms mean to us (this board not included, since apparently most of this board is too young to remember Penn State before the year 2000). Michigan has alternate unis, but I wouldn't call Michigan's jerseys, pants and shoes iconic, so changing these isn't a big deal. The iconic part of Michigan's uniforms is the winged helmet, and through all of the alternate uniforms, the helmets are the one constant (save a few tweaks like numbers and pride stickers). What the winged helmets and "The Victors" are to Michigan is what the plain uniforms and Joe Paterno are to Penn State. This idea that you can decouple Penn State Football from either of those two things (as the current PSU administration and apparently a sizable portion of this board would like to do) is laughable. We shouldn't try and hide our past because of Jerry Sandusky (which is what all of this "change" BS is really all about).
How does Notre Dame continue to recruit at such a high level despite not having names on the back of their unis and self-imposed on-field bowl bans? It's their tradition. Tradition is everything. Don't let ours die because of one sick person's actions.
Have you seen what ND had done to their uni's lately? They are the icon of the iconic. I don't see why your so upset about names on the uni's, and why that small change means so much to you, that you would threaten you alligence to the team, and your support to the university if they did this.
I respect the traditions of the past, yet remain open to changes of the future. Regardless of anything that happens to the uniform, we still are Penn State. Maybe you consider me young at 34, but I too remember sitting on the couch with my day at the age of 6 watching PSU vs Alabama on CBS on Saturday afternoon. I understand the tradition, but also understand the school means a lot more than a uniform(change or no change).
I really didn't think it was fair of you to generalize the new uniform lovers as a bunch of 18 year olds, or whatever it was you said. How would you have felt if someone said it's all these old farts that are too stuck in the past, that keeps this university in the stone ages.
"A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation." - Gerald Hodges
You were the one being disagreeable. I'm just trying to get you to stop voicing your disagreement like a baby.
He probably wasn't a fan of Penicillen when it came out either. Gosh darn changes anyway, nothing good ever comes of them. Personally I think we should stick with eastern medicine.
FWIW I love the old uniforms...but I'd be no more loyal than Silas Redd if I quit rooting for the team based on uniforms. It's just preposterous.
Unfortunately a big part of our "rich" tradition landed us 4 years of sanctions, so I am all for change right now, especially if it draws kids' attention.
...and if you're not down with that, then I got 2 words for ya.."suck it!!"
I see both sides of the coin here, I love are old uniforms as they are now, but i also wouldn't mind seeing a little change. I would prefer they keep the old uni's and have a couple of games every year where the wear a Pro combat or some kind of alternative uni. Its exciting for the players and it could be also exciting for a recruit that is there to see the different uni's.
Its Obrien's program now if he wants to change the uniforms then so be it, i may not love it but Im all in and always have been.
It's only a part of it(tradition) for me. I just absolutely LOVE the unis is the long and short of it :)
Suck It Emmert!! and "Sorry for not being sorry for being a Penn Stater" - Philafan
haha, just curious paupack, are you 18? ; )P
Only prob is.........the Bills don't exactly have a rich tradition - Scott Norwood says hi
I am almost 33, and I understand the motives behind the uniform changes. I can remember back into the 80s, and I'm also well-versed in our storied history. I love our traditional blue and white, but I am not going to be upset at the school for modernizing our image and trying to excite young recruits.
+1, an up-vote, a chest bump and an Amen to you sir!
no names on the back of jerseys, its not about the player its about the team
I'm pushing 50, and all of this change taking place at PSU is something that a lifelong Nittany Lion and Steeler fan is not used to. The traditional uni is something Nittany Nation has always identified with PSU football and I would love to see them remain....however, that being said, "we are not in Kansas anymore Toto" and with all that has transpired, now may be as good of a time to change the unis as any. I will accept a modernization of the jersey, but keep the traditional white helmet and the ONLY name that belongs on the jersey the university it represents...
WE ARE...and ALWAYS will be!!
"Leadership is to be both a speaker of words and a doer of deeds"
WE ARE and ALWAYS will be...... RIP JVP
This is the attitude that upsets me. That's such a bunch of garbage.
Right, my disagreeing with you turned into an internet tough-guy personal attack.
I don't see the connection you're trying to make.
Names on the jersey might not be a bad idea to recognize the players that stuck by the program when times were tough. The whole mantra that the team is greater than the individual is a great message. But at this time when individuals have free reign to either leave the program or stay and try to lead the rebuilding of Penn State, it might not be a bad idea to recognize the names behind those leaders who decided to stay. At least that is my guess as to the reason for adding the names.
This! +1 Cory.
Put names on the back of the jerseys to show the world those guys who stayed loyal to PSU through all of this. I want their stories to be shared too. Not just the ones who leave which are making all the press now and are basically being applauded for their decision to do so. On top of doing that, I think the entire team should walk out to mid-field before every game this year for the coin toss. That will send a message!
Like PJ tweeted earlier today, all of this BS talk and crap is only bringing the entire Nittany Nation closer and closer together. So I hope the media keeps talking all this BS and jumping on us while they can. BOB and company will keep this thing afloat until after the sanctions are over and then LOOKOUT college football.
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
I can see that Cory. Good point.
Are you 18 Cory?
But, but but but..............wait. If we do this, then doners and boosters will pull their donations to the program.............., and loyal fans throughout the decades will LEAVE. That will leave us with a bunch of 18 year olds running the university, as they could be the only ones dumb enough to go for an idea like this....................and we all know 18 year olds don't have any money, so bye bye to the football program.
And we thought the sanctions would sink us...................................
This post was edited by PSUHomer 20 months ago
Careful, I am up to 220 lbs.
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