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Sorry stupid phone....meant to say he got 1/4 of the Falcons 360 carries.
Little bit different but the Eagles wont be having training camp at Lehigh this year and will be the 21st team to use their stadium and team complex for camp.
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While I agree with much of your points, what is this significant dip to which you refer?
In 2011, SJ averaged the same YPC as in 2006. In 2012, it was right around his career average. His role has decreased, the team's reliance on him has decreased, but not his performance.
The only thing that has dropped with Jackson is the number of carries. You can't put that solely on age. This may be a combination of age, Bradford developing, the Rams "preserving" Jackson's ability & value, and recently Fisher's greater balance in offensive schemes. They were dealing with a shell-shocked QB in Bulger with no O-line and an underwhelming/injured QB in Bradford.
SJ won't be called upon to carry 250 times in Atlanta. He's still in great shape and will probably be asked to carry 220-230 times. He's definitely strong enough to do that. With reasonable number of carries, I don't expect the sharp physical drop off for another 2 years or so.
I'm not the one who originally made the 1200-1300 claim, I was saying it's unlikely from the start. Also, I have no idea where you got 360+ carries from. He had 94 carries last year, 150ish career. Hell, career rushes + receptions is still 150 short of your 360 mark.
You're thinking too much shavi. He may be the "4th" option, but that doesn't matter because the other 3 are all receivers. The falcons run 45-50% of the time and who do you think is gonna get those carries? Rodgers will get some but out of 350-400 runs that they run next year I'm sure Jax will get at least 250, maybe more. Is it a stretch that Jax will average 4.5 YPC? I don't think so considering the defense won't be stacked against him like it has his whole career. The falcons may have weapons in te air, but they want to run the ball. An they would have run more last year of turner hasn't sucked so bad.
You're pretty pessimistic/conservative with your sports predictions man. Don't ridicule when someone when they go out on a ledge, even if the prediction isn't that out there.
you forgot to keep reading. Doc already notified me of my error, which was from "trying" to type on my phone.
Any idea if it will still be open to the public?
His YPC has never been great, true. That's one reason I think the signing has been overhyped. His biggest asset his entire career was being able to hand a tremendous workload, so even though he wasn't the quickest, he was always reliable. I would suggest that the lack of carries is a major part of that dip I was talking about. His game was predicated on pounding the rock 25 times a game. Now he carries it 15-16. I'm guessing his age played a major factor in that, but I'm not his coach, so I couldn't tell you. His receptions have dipped every year in the past three as well. He used to be a great RB out of the backfield. He is not anymore.
I agree about his likely Atlanta stats. My original point was that people were making too big of a deal out of his signing. I still think so. He likely will not run for 12-1300 as was suggested earlier in this thread. He will be an upgrade over Turner, but he's not that piece that will put ATL over the top. I've seen stories on how this makes the Falcons so much better. I think getting Tony to come back makes them much better than getting SJax to sign. It's a passing offense based around Matt Ryan having targets. SJax will alleviate a little bit of the pressure that Turner couldn't, but the running game wasn't their problem last year at all.
Less access. Invite only to practices at the Nova Care Complex and a few free open to public practices at the Linc.
Not trying to start an argument, but who did the articles on the Jackson signing that thinks he'll put the Falcons over the top?
All of these articles specifically mention the phrase "over the top" and are from well read or watched sources (sbnation is easily the leading sports blog network and more than just bleacher report for those who are unfamiliar - and it was written by a Panthers blogger, so obviously it's not just a Falcons fan). The video is a debate whether he puts them over the top (one says no, the mayor of ATL's opinion is obviously worthless as he's biased, and the third person speaks very highly of him).
The Atlanta Falcons added some veteran help on offense, as they signed Steven Jackson to bolster their running backs in the biggest free agency move of the day. How did your team do with their signings?
The Falcons have agreed to terms with running back Steven Jackson.
debates how much the signing of running back Steven Jackson helps the Atlanta Falcons and if it is the missing piece of a super bowl team.
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That blows IMO. I love training camp at Lehigh and was really excited to go this year. Maybe Chip wants to keep the offense on the hush. Hopefully this is only a one year change.
That is ridiculous....he's a solid back, but not sure he's going really be much more productive than Turner.
He should be way more productive than Turner. Jackson is a proven NFL workhorse.
I agree with the comment.... I don't think it's enough to be already naming the Falcons as the Super Bowl champs.
There's something off about them that I just don't trust. Offensively, I like them better than the Seahawks and Niners..but I'd rather have the Seahawks and Niners offers down the stretch of a game.
Defensively, I believe there's quite a gap between them and the other two. This season, I think you're going to see a HEAVY tilt towards the NFC. The Broncos seem legit, but I think all of SEA, SF, ATL, and GB would finish 1st or 2nd seed in the AFC.
However, I think the two best teams in football the Niners and Hawks.
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Turner's two worst seasons in Atlanta averaged 830 yards rushing and 10 TD's. His other three averaged almost 1,500 yards and 13 TD per. Turner was 30 this past year and has about 1,700 career touches vs. Jackson who has 2,800 touches coming into the year.
I'm not sure what way more productive means, but I'm thinking Atlanta would be happy if Jackson could do 800 yards and 10 TD's.
If winning was easy even losers would do it.
I'd agree with all of that. I think Seattle and SF are the top two by a good bit. Unfortunately, one of the two will likely have to play 3 road games to reach the Super Bowl (although not having the bye isn't necessarily the worst thing). Seattle has become an elite pass rushing team in free agency with Avril and Bennett (both to very good contracts). Both teams have elite OL, very good QB's, very good/elite RBs, good wr/te combos. And both have elite pass rushes and great secondaries. Just overall great teams on paper.
ATL and GB can't compete defensively (on paper only). But I wouldn't be surprised to see either of those teams come out of the NFC anyway. Denver will be very good, NE is always a threat and Houston will be good. But I think the gap between Denver and the others is pretty significant (again on paper). I guess Cincy could be pretty good as well.
Falcons re-sign Tony Gonzalez. 2 years, $14m.
They won't say it but I imagine this also has a lot to do with the fact that Andy Reid's son passed away in a dorm room there last year. You have to imagine that they would have moved on whether Chip Kelly was coach or not. Lot of bad memories from that I imagine. I do also think that Chip will prefer to use the high class facilities that they have at Novacare considering the way he likes to run practice and integrate it w/ film study seamlessly, etc.
I believe it has to do with both of what you said read an article that Chip likes this study of shorter more frequent practices that wouldn't be fan friendly and something with the lighting he likes to play with during practices to get the players ready for gameday. Rain at Lehigh forced inside practices anyway and I just saw 2 to 3 hundred VIP invites to Nova Care practices and about a dozen public practices at the Linc.
Yeah that was terrible. I was there that day.
Are CFL transactions allowed in here? Dwill to the Toronto Argonauts ....
I think the only thing the Hawks lack is a legit number 1 wide receiver. Harvin is a slot WR basically. They rely on Sidney Rice and Doug Baldwin as goto WRs. Really like their TE Miller though
I think Crabtree and eventually AJ Jenkins to go along with Boldin is what seperates them. Kapernick and Wilson are going to be an interesting rivalry.
Yeah, really. Jackson is a powerful bruising every down back. Played in an offense that was behind a lot, with a so-so QB in Bradford, and whoever else QB'd there. Atlanta is fairly loaded on offense with 3 above average wr's, a future HOF tight-end, and a much better QB than St. L ever had. He should run against defenses that can't crowd the box which should afford him the chance to get a lot of yards, and possibly some TD's that Turner couldn't do this past year.
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