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Flacco's deal has absolutely no bearing on the Boldin situation. Flacco's cap number this upcoming season is relatively small ($7 million to $8 million from what I've read), which is quite common in the first year or two of a huge deal where almost all the money is paid out as bonus and not salary. Boldin's cap number his year would have been about $8.5 million. The Ravens simply do not have the cap space for Boldin. Had the Ravens paid less for Flacco, it would not have changed a thing with regard to Boldin.
When the Ravens signed Boldin three years ago to his 4-year deal, they knew that there was a salary escalation coming this year and that they would have to either re-negotiated to lower his cap hit or trade/release him. This was no surprise. I'm very sad to see him go but am glad he got traded to the NFC.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by strez 16 months ago
The Ravens cap number(s) being tossed around in the media are misleading. The Ravens have lot of RFAs and UFAs to sign with that number to make up their complete roster. I believe that number being tossed around only accounts for 40 players or something like that.
Whenever you see cap numbers being discussed in the media, take them with a grain of salt because you never know if that cap space is being applied to a team with 30 players under contract or a full 53-man roster under contract. Salaries are simply applied to players under contract which varies significantly at this point from team to team.
Boldin refused to take a pay cut so any team who wanted to trade for him had to also welcome his $6 million salary. There were very few teams that (1) had the cap space to take on Boldin's contract, and (2) felt he was worth the cap space.
Boldin had a monster play-offs this year, but during the regular season he was not a stand-out receiver by any means. He averaged four catches a game and only had a total of four TD receptions in the regular season. I'm sad to see him go but he was not worth $8.5 million against the cap this year given the other needs the Ravens have that I think are much more critical. Word is that Tandon Doss will be promoted to his position, but that does not make me happy at all. I hope the Ravens look outside for a decent possession receiver, or take on mid-rounds in the draft.
This post was edited by strez 16 months ago
The Ravens rarely make a splash in free agency. They will approach this off-season similar to most - they will pick up a few UFAs of the mid-level caliber to fill out their roster at positions of need, they will promote from within, and try to get a starter or two out of the draft. They will have plenty of cap space to achieve this. What they likely won't do is reach or overpay for a free agent. I think most Ravens fans understand that this is how the off-season will play out and fairly comfortable with it.
I believe Boldin was set to make $6 million this year. By trading Boldin, the Raven saved $4.5 million and are still on the books for the remaining $1.5 million. San Fran has to pay $4.5 million to Boldin this year.
Boldin's salary would have been $6 million. His cap hit this year would have been salary plus pro-rated portion of $10 million/four year signing bonus (or $2.5 million if Rotoworld's contract figures are correct), which combine for $8.5 million. The bonus money, since already paid, will still be on the books for the Ravens in dead cap space ($2.5 million). Niners will have to pay the full $6 million salary. If there was a split bonus involved, this cap figures may be a bit different, but the 49ers are responsible for total salary. Ravens save $6 million against the cap ($8.5 million minus dead cap space).
The Vikings and Harvin have found some way to keep his migraines under control. To the best of my knowledge he's not missed a game due to migraines in 2-3 years.
Right, boiled down to basics, Boldin gets every dollar in his contract because of the trade.
For 2013, BALT counts $2.5M on the cap. If they retained Boldin, his cap number for BALT was $8.5M.
SF only pays his true salary, $6M.
So BALT could not afford his $8.5M cap number.
That dead cap space is the NFL teams paying the piper. Like you using a credit card. Payment later. Every time you hear about a veteran contract being renegotiated, you will have the potential for dead cap space.
Good for BALT. Good for SF.
As a Rams fan ... it sucks, SEA and SF get stronger. The NFC West is a strong strong division now.
Who would have thought that as recently as, what, two seasons ago? 2010 was when Seattle made it as a 7-9 team, correct?
FA's in the near future and Flacco's cap number down the line make this a financial move. They are thinking long term. But you agree that it's a cap move? Interesting.
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Boldin had only one year left on his contract, so there was no consideration given to anything beyond one year. Flacco's contract, however, will have a HUGE bearing on FA signings with multi-year deals.
Had the Ravens retained Boldin at his $8.5 million cap hit, they would not have had the cap space to sign their RFAs and fill out there roster with a few acceptable UFAs to backfill positions of exiting free agents.
So they have. What they weren't able to do, like Florida before them, is keep his attitude under control. I expect nothing less in Seattle. If I was Carroll, I'd send him for a little chat with MRob on his first day of training camp to set expectations of how they operate around there.
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@nfltrade_rumors: Jets Release NT Sione Pouha http://t.co/nZTIlgGLII
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@nfltrade_rumors: Report: Browns "Closing In" On Signing OLB Paul Kruger http://t.co/yCkW9G0hQE
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@MMehtaNYDN: I'm told Jets prefer to trade Revis to NFC team. Would like to get it done in coming days if price is right. (1st-rder isn't a lock) #nyj
Whether those last 3 materialize or not is yet to be seen just seeing what you guys think.
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Pouha's release is a bit surprising. He was a good NT. The Jets drafted a good prospect at NT recently, though (last year I think).
Jared Cook is a good player, but key will be going to a team that will actually use him as a receiver consistently.
Ugh. Article here has a recording of a phone conversation between GM's Buddy Nix (Bills) and Mark Dominik (Bucs). It was set up and recorded by pranksters.
Itt really understand how telephones work.
This is a great move for Bush. Reduced pounding as a between the tackles RB requirement. More of a short passing option to Megatron. With Megatron and Bush on the field, it becomes a target rich environment. Plus they have a good OL so Bush won't have a lot of blocking assignments. Its a good fit.
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The Birds should probably look at this guy as a potential NT. Don't have much else going on besides draft possibilities.
This post was edited by Tom88 16 months ago
I was thinking the Bills might take a look as well. They hired the Jets' former DC, so I was wondering if the Bills might go after any players the Jets have released from their D (Bart Scott, Landry, Pouha, etc.).
Harvin's migraines were a result of sleep apnea...NOT a result of elevation or weather. He's been properly diagnosed and treated and hasnt had issues with migraines for the last 2 seasons.
Not a big surprise here ...
Tony Gonzalez has reportedly been given the 'green light' to talk contract with the Falcons.
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