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I've been pushing UVA and UNC for months on here. I'd be very happy with that. Solid football programs with a lot of potential (especially UNC) and great academic reputations.
We'd get to play UNC, UVA, MD, Rutgers and OSU every year. That would be a lot of fun. We basically get to play the ACC schedule a lot of us wanted to also get to play the best of the B1G. And the money, of course.
“We’re doing things we couldn’t imagine,” says safety Stephen Obeng-Agyapong. “But we’re doing them together.”
I like all of that but after seeing the NCAA jump out of their jurisdiction to attempt to crush PSU, it's hard to swallow a cheating UNC getting a major financial payday with an offer to join the BIG. So I'd prefer UVA and a school that isn't an academic fraud.
I initially wanted UNC for bball reasons, but I'd be happy with UVA and Vtech. I just don't want Georgia tech, they just don't appeal to me, if we're going that south, I'd rather have Clemson or Florida state over GT.
The strangest part of that article was the support for GT by Purdue and Illinois. Anyone understand why that is?
I still don't understand why the B1G wouldn't be more interested in Virginia Tech than UVA.
VT more fits the academic profile (relatively large, research/engineering/ag focused institution) and has a rabid fanbase (always fills their stadium, and travels very well).
UVA, while a very fine academic institution, is a dainty liberal arts school where nobody cares about sports. It's like adding another Northwestern (except without the good engineering/research program).
With Virginia Tech you get BOTH academics (Their engineering program ranked ahead of ours according to US News) AND sports.
It just doesn't make sense that there would be more interest in UVA than VT.
Neither Clemson nor FSU is an option really. FSU would be much closer, but I don't think we'd ever really consider Clemson.
Lefty, I'm guessing their engineering school. I know UIUC is very good for civil engineers, and I think Purdue has a decent program as well.
And a quick google search backs me up...
Boulder: No AAU affiliation.
See the top ranked civil engineering programs at US News. Use the best engineering school rankings to find the right graduate program for you.
Yes, GT makes a lot of sense as in they're a VERY good engineering school (fits the academic profile), and it's a completely new market
I agree with leftcoast though in that GT is a snoozer addition from a competition/sports perspective.
At least OB will know how to pick apart Roof's defense...
Oh wait, he knows how to do that to everyone.
"PSU a 3 to 4 win team" - New-era, September 2012
I meant wanting Clemson and FSU as wishful thinking.
Nebraska isn't in the AAU are they? So, not being in the AAU wouldn't be blazing new ground. And if it did make a difference (which clearly it does not, given Nebraska), I'm sure VT could get in.
They were AAU until right before they joined. I'd bet they are again soon.
And through all of this, LOL Pitt.
They were AAU when accepted. Lost it after because of, among other things, how their medical school is affiliated with the main branch at UNL. Also, Nebraska Brand >>>>>>> VaTech Brand. With UVA being in the same state, with (I believe) a wealthier alumni base and AAU affiliation...
There is about...oh...one team that has a chance without AAU: Notre Dame.
This post was edited by MTayl72 15 months ago
Right. So, adding a school that isn't AAU isn't blazing new ground at this point. Especially one who's academic reputation is on solid ground (unlike Nebraska).
There has never been a school accepted to the B1G that is not affiliated with the AAU.
So yes, it would be blazing new ground.
1. The B1G currently has a school not in the AAU (in part because of the votes of other B1G schools, btw).
2. There is an open invitation to ND, who is not in the AAU, to join the B1G.
Exactly. AAU membership is clearly not a requirement/prerequisite (nor should it be).
There is an academic component to schools getting invited to join the BIG. Neither Clemson nor FSU have it - not even close.
ND makes too much money to ignore.
When the vote was made Nebraska had AAU membership, is close to getting it back, and the situation was reviewed by the B1G member schools. There has not been a member accepted without that affiliation. You are comparing VaTech and their potential earnings to ND and Nebraska. EXACTLY. That's dumb.
UVA is a better school, gets the same TVs, and has AAU membership. They are the better pick.
Yeah that's what I thought too. Until Nebraska somehow found its way into the B1G.
I understand that the Presidents like other AAU schools, but can someone tell me how that really matters in the grand scheme of things? I've never heard the multi million dollar tv deals caring about AAU status. Seems like more a bragging right thing, but in reality all that matters is TV markets and $ signs.
There is academic money and partnerships at stake too. And you have to convince the B1G presidents (academics) to vote them in.
Again, IF AAU membership is a requirement to the B1G, I'm sure VT could fill out some forms and join (especially if a school with the academics of Nebraska ever was a member).
It would be foolish for the B1G to screen based on AAU membership. And as much as I despise the B1G administration, I know they're not dumb.
UVA has a better overall academic reputation than VT, but that's primarily based on their liberal arts colleges (they crank out top notch lawyers and Art History grads -- Yippee!). They have a good business school too.
When it comes to what matters (engineering and engineering research), UVA would be near the bottom in the B1G (PSU/VT middle of the pack). Nebraska would probably be the only engineering school in the B1G regarded lower than UVA's engineering school.
The reason GT is (apparently) coveted by some other B1G schools (sharing of engineering research and $$$) is the same reason VT should be more appealing (than UVA) to the B1G from an academic standpoint. UVA has very little to offer from that perspective. And then regarding sports -- Again, it's not even close between UVA and VT.
You're right, it isn't close. UVA is getting the attention not VT. Like you said,they aren't dumb.
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