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While its certainly cause for concern, I don't see PSU losing its accredidation. I mean, come on, really? Just because our leadership is horrendous and one could argue there was an active cover up of Sandusky going on, doesn't mean the quality of education is lacking and PSU should lose its accredidation. Call me a homer or crazy but I just don't see this happening.
If anyone deserves to lose their accredidation it would be UNC after the latest news of the fraudulent classes they enrolled football players in.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by PSUjosh11 23 months ago
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
No chance of happening
This does not mean the education is lacking (in response to psubills62 as well). Instead, the warning is in regard to governance, governmental integrity, and financial stability (the strength to handle civil suits and properly deal with the reduction in football revenue).
The ESPN article outlines those comments above and also makes it apparent that loss of accreditation appears doubtful.
Did you read the letter? It isn't about screwing PSU over and it is nothing about the quality of education. Part of being accredited is being in compliance with federal rules and regulations. That is specifically what they are looking at PSU for. Why you are mad at *me* for this, I don't understand. It is what it is.
This post was edited by getmyjive11 23 months ago
This is what happens when you don't fight back. Everyone piles on no matter how rediculous.
This post was edited by TpaFan 23 months ago
This is another side effect (albeit one of bad publicity rather than a legitimate risk of loss of accreditation) of Erickson signing the consent decree and the BOT accepting the Freeh report as fact without either of them taking the time to consider the ramifications of their hasty actions. How far will the ripples from those decisions spread?
Actually as Jive pointed out this is where Freeh actually helps. Shows we are taking steps to correct the issues. Beyond that they'll need to show how they plaan to pay. Which, shouldn't be difficult.
I can't see Jive's post, but I have mixed feelings about Freeh helping. Freeh’s report was damning. Its conclusions regarding the football program were questionable at best, and based on thin to no evidence. I don't know how accurate or valid its conclusions and recommendations were regarding needed administrative changes, or if some of it was just overkill. The report (and the BOT's acceptance of it as completely accurate - even without having read it) probably triggered the warning from Middle States. So I'm not sure how much Freeh helped.
The BOT’s decision to enact the recommended changes, along with the fact that a Penn State education is one of the best in the country, makes the Middle State warning essentially meaningless from the standpoint of an actual risk of losing accreditation.
The side effect I was referring to is just the PR aspect. Now publicly, Penn State’s accreditation is at risk. That’s as far as many will read. It’s bad publicity, just like having sponsors pull out. The public perception will be that those companies don’t want to be associated with a university that covered up for a pedophile to protect its football program.
When you don’t fight, others write the narrative. History is written by the victors. The NCAA won, and the media is writing history based on what the NCAA feeds it. Unfortunately, it’s too late now. Fighting now would just be seen as whining by people who “just don’t get it.” How many more unforeseen effects of the report and the BOT's decision to accept it will occur is anybody's guess.
I have said before that the problem with the Freeh report is that PSU let them make OPINIONS on our culture. The Freeh Group should have only been asked to find compliance gaps in our institution. That was a major misstep by the administration and it has certainly caused us some additional issues. But in this case, the Freeh report offers a guideline for us to follow and should be looked upon favorably by the Middle States, especially if we show the progress that has been made and the future plans for compliance.
Again, this should be priority #1 for the university. Not the NCAA.
This is not a big deal at all. Basically, Middle States has just come out and said that Penn State will not face the loss of accredidation. That was always unlikely, but it was a pretty big stone hanging over the University's head. Now, Penn State will cooperate fully, and probably be billed for the manpower Middle States will use during this process, and loss of accrediation isn't an issue anymore.
More than just football
Can someone tell me why this woman's name keeps popping up during this mess?
Lou Prato @LouPrato
Plot thickens-Triponey recently hired by Pres at College of NJ who is chair of Middle States accrediting group that warned PSU yesterday
Oh dear God!
PSU fired her for being a militant piece of "work" who alienated everyone from her position as head of student affairs (?)
Everywhere we turn she is there...ties to Mark Emmert now ties to Middlestates....someone holding a grudge?
She just bought herself a seat in the first row on my bus.
If you look up the word "Bitch" in the dictionary... you get the idea.
Was thinking another word myself...
See you next Tuesday?
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