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Left off of the Lombardi Award quaterfinalists while four other B1G players made it. Gholston, Borland, Short, and Hankins.
Guess we better get used to Penn State players never getting national award recognition.
against Illinois he was National Def player for the week......surprising he is not on the list...Gholston is all hype - he is not consistent
Got a link Joe? The rotary Lombardi site doesn't have this listed yet.
Not totally surprised Lombardi award is primarily for linemen. He should make the Butkus and the Bednarick.
This is from the officla B1G twitter feed.
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Here's the list, there are definitely some names that don't belong over him.
Alex Okafor, Texas - 6 Sacks, 0 FF, 0 INT, 14 TKL, 12 solo
Arthur Brown, Kansas State - 1 Sack, 0 FF, 0 INT, 41 TKL, 23 solo
Barkevious Mingo, LSU - 1 Sack, 0 FF, 0 INT, 16 TKL, 10 solo
Barrett Jones, Alabama - Oline
Bjoern Werner, Florida State - 6.5 Sacks(4 vs Murray State), 0 FF, 0 INT, 20 TKL, 16 solo
Chance Warmack, Alabama - Oline
Chris Borland, Wisconsin - 3 Sacks, 0 FF, 0 INT, 55 TKL, 30 solo
Corey Lemonier, Auburn - 5 Sacks, 0 FF, 0 INT, 15 TKL, 9 solo
Cornellius Carradine, Florida State - 7 Sacks, 0 FF, 0 INT, 36 TKL, 21 solo
Damontre Moore, Texas A&M 1 Sack, 0 FF, 0 INT, 8 TKL, 5 solo
DJ Fluker, Alabama - OLine
Jackson Jeffcoat, Texas - 3.5 sacks, 0 FF, 0 INT, 22 TKL, 15 solo
Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina - 6.5 Sacks, 0 FF, 0 INT, 25 TKL, 17 solo
Jarvis Jones, Georgia - 5.5 Sacks, 0 FF, 1 INT, 37 TKL, 21 Solo
Joe Madsen, West Virginia No OL stats
Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State - 0 Sacks, 0 FF, 0 INT, 3 TKL, 0 Solo
Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina - can't find OL stats
Kawann Short, Purdue - 4 Sacks, 0 FF, 0 INT, 17 TKL, 15 solo
Khaled Holmes, USC - can't find OL stats
Manti Te'o, Notre Dame - 0 Sacks, 0 FF, 3 INT, 46 TKL, 23 solo
Sam Montgomery, LSU - 2 Sacks, 0 FF, 0 INT, 18 TKL, 8 Solo
Star Lotulelei, Utah - 1 Sack, 0 FF, 0 INT, 21 TKL, 15 solo
Travis Johnson, San Jose State - 7.5 sacks(4 against UC DAVIS), 0 FF, 0 INT, 35 TKL, 22 solo
Will Sutton, Arizona State - 6.5 sacks, 0 FF, 0 INT, 35 TKL, 21 solo
William Gholston, Michigan State - 1 sack, 0 FF, 0 INT, 24 tkl, 12 solo
Mike Mauti - 1.5 Sacks, 0 FF, 2 INT, 57 TKL, 32 solo
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Itzsessil 18 months ago
I did too much work for this to slide down the board lol.
IF Mauti and Hodges are both left off the Bednarik and Butkus list, there's a problem.
I can get over this award since it's mostly a lineman that wins, like already mentioned. I have a feeling that Manti Teo is going to win a shit ton of awards because of his story and as long as ND keeps winning. He'll likely get the clean sweep of awards for LB. The national media is in love with ND, their record, and especially Manti. Even if we were undefeated and not bound by sanctions, it would still be this way.
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
As of right now, I'd pick Clowney to win this award. He has grown from a man into a beast in just one season. His transformation has been incredible and he's still only a sophomore.
Thanks for the work! It should also be mentioned that Holmes almost cost USC the game versus Utah because Star Lotulelei beat him badly early in the game.
I know a lot of it is about play on the field, but a few of those DEs have not played well/not put up stats....
For example, Mingo is being touted as a 1st round DE and has never put up the stats to deserve it and isn't great at setting the edge/anchoring against the run..definitely a boom or bust guy. Preseason hype got him on this list...
Leaving the OL's out of this argument, I think Mauti should be on there in place of, and has a great argument against.... Gholston, Travis Johnson, Sam Montgomery, Johnathan Hankins, Damontre Moore, Mingo, Bjoern Wener, and Aurthur Borwn.
No Love!!! #snubbed. We all know who is going to win it if they win out!! Manti will get all the press.
It's okay, like pouring jet fuel on a grease fire. More fuel to burn for #42, more doubters=more fire
And Mauti is arguably having a better season than Te'o too. This is just ridiculous. I don't know if he should win it's obviously too early for that but there's no way in hell he doesn't deserve to even make the list.
And on the point of Clowney, Yes that guy is just a freak. He'll be the #1 overall pick in the 2014 draft. he can only get better too
I dasagree with Werner, Montgomery and Brown...Brown has been playing great for KSU (he is all over the field versus the run and pass), Montgomery is good against the run and the pass, and Werner is having a very good season.
Is there any way they add guys in as the year progresses if their play continues to warrant it?
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All the things you said are true but they don't belong ahead of Mauti.
I agree, they don't belong ahead of Mauti, but they should be on the list. The others you mentioned are glaring examples of guys that don't deserve to be on the list...
can someone explain to me how Manti Te'o is 3rd on ESPN's Heisman "hopefuls" ballot? I don't understand it at all other than it being a direct effect of the national media's hardon for ND. He's a great player but in no way shape or form is he having a season that would warrant Heisman recognition.
1. It's ND
2. They're 5-0
3. It's ND
4. They "may" have returned to dominance
5. It's ND
6. Manti's story
7. It's ND
8. Lou Holtz's mouth full of marbles
i think numbers 1 3 5 and 7 make the most sense. But i really do think that Clowney is the best defensive player in the country right now. He should be ahead of Te'o no doubt.
According to the article I read in VBR by T. Tolley, the award goes to the nation's best offensive or defensive lineman or linebacker. There is also a quote stating that according to the Rotary Club of Houston, the winner exemplifies leadership, desire, courage, a respect for authority and discipline. Sounds like they are describing M Mauti. I can not think of a defensive player who has meant more to his team than M Mauti.
No matter what happens with the awards and the rest of the season, Michael Mauti in my book forever will always be at the top of my list of favorite players, love his heart and leadership this year!!!
He is at the top of my list and that list started in 1966.
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