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I don't no much about Dooley, how good is he?
I just hope everyone that has verballed to date, signs on the dotted line in Feb.
October 12, 2013. PSU 43 - UM 40 (4 OT). Unfortunately this fan wasn't around long enough to see it!
Well done, sir!
I was thinking Kevin Jones and Chad Henne.
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
Talk about 2 guys that I wish PSU would have gotten. Both were stud players that could have done great things at PSU. Then again JayPa would have probably ruined Henne.
Dominate The State
Can someone answer this quetion?
Are we not taking another early entry b/c we dont want to or b/c you believe that we dont have capability to take another commit. B/c we took 19 players last year (J.James is #20 but he was an early enrollee), so we can take 1 more EE.
We are full up on EE slots that count towards 12, don't forget we signed Wooten and Franklin as well.
Anzalone and Nkemdiche.
Everyone says that but that is not the case. Or at least no one has shown me that we cant take another EE if we want to.
We took 20 players last year, including Wooten & Franklin.
J.James was an early enroll, so he could count to the year before.
That makes 19 counting for last year, which gives us 6 available EE spots.
How is this analysis wrong.
Jamil Pollard still counts as he enrolled at took (and completed) classes at PSU. He was a transfer technically. That leaves 5 spots for Smith, Smith, Breneman, Anderson, and Ferguson.
That would make sense if Pollard counts but are we sure he counts. Its seems illogical for him to count against both psu & rutgers, & the ncaa let him out of the commitment, not psu, but it would not surprise me. So if every player from the 2012 transfered prior to class we would have to count them all as scholarship even if not here & then prevent us from taking players to fill those spots? NCAA has never allowed players to transfer like this before that im aware.
So does Redd, Brown, transfer etc all count against the scholarship limit this year (not those that stop playing football but can remain in scholarship) so psu would be unable to offer walk-ons scholarships last year or this year to get tothe allowabale 85?
Also, do the players from the team that stay in school & dont play count against scholarship limit next year, and into the years that we have a 65 limit?
This is more crazy than anyone expected if that is the case.
It isn't about who counts as scholarships it is who counts as a recruiting class. Pollard counts as he was recruited, signed his LOI, enrolled, completed classes, and then was allowed to transfer. At that point he was no longer a recruit he was a player, if he had chosen to transfer under other circumstances, he would have had to sit out. So the NCAA did not let him out of his commitment, they let him transfer schools. Also the NCAA has allowed players to transfer like this, with a catchL they only allow the free transfer for those players who would not be eligible to go to a bowl for the rest of their careers. For us that was all four classes, when they did it to USC it was two classesL their juniors and seniors.
Also, yes if they dropped and chose to stay in school we would still have to honor their scholarships against our 65. That was previously reported. I think Graham and Royer are planning to transfer or graduate by the time that it would actually matter for us to get to 65.
Finally we know we have no more room additionally (not because we all did the math), but Sean is in contact with the PSU staff, and they would be going for another EE if that was the case. Fitz has repeatedly said we were done. We're done.
Mtayl - not to fact check you, but do you remember where it was reported the count against the 65 if they just quit? I know they keep their scholarship, but i must have missed where it was reported they counted against the 65.
Should clarify that, as I meant to there. That was stated here, but I never remember seeing a hard article for it. It was stated by posters I generally trust, however.
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