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Kinda old news but I was curious what people thought about Manziel being courtside at the Mavs-Heat game and apparently was also in the locker room after a Rockets game as well. Seems fishy.
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His parents are rich. They could have bought the tickets for him.
Well that settles that.
gotta love rich parents and spoiled kids.
'Respect All Fear None."
Haha oh come on.
I'm more interested in how he got in the locker room.
As long as they didn't hand him any jersey's or anything, is it really an issue? If he got the tickets from the parents or family "friends", it doesn't really matter how he got to the lockeroom. I'm not sure it can be seen as a gift unless he was given something of value while in there. I would imagine or hope A&M coached him up on what not to do with his popularity now. If not, shame on the school for being so naive. He's basically a rock star right now down there and hopefully he has a cool enough head off the field to see through it.
"One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."
You're right about the tickets - but isn't there something along the lines that he can't get something that another student couldn't get? No normal student is getting brought back into the locker room.
Pretty much. if he got anything due to him being an athlete, its an NCAA violation. Did he get invited back into the locker room just because he is Johnny Football? Or did he or his parents pay some kind of fee, which I do not think pro sports teams even do (its not like backstage passes at band shows).
"Whoever’s trying to kill me isn’t getting the job done. But one day, I’m going to punch that f___r in the face."
He got in the locker room because of who he is. A lot of NBA teams will see a celebrity or famous person and hook he or she up, especially if their PR thinks it will help the team and or the brand. The NY and LA teams do it all the time. I know and understand that it technically might be an NCAA violation, but I really think that is another silly NCAA rule. I think the kid got tickets to the game and he was asked to go to the locker room. If a PSU kid went home this weekend and was asked to do the same, I am sure all would have done it.
Perfect example of the gray area of cheating in the NCAA and how cheaters will always find a way. RE: the mavs game, Johnny tweeted that night for everyone to chill out, that he bought the tickets. Well last time I looked, I can't find any face value courtside tickets on the market, as they are season ticket locked up and thus not a single game option. So the question is, did he pay the market (scalped) value as to what they go for to any Tom, Dick and Harry that gets on Stub Hub, or did someone offer them to him because he's Johnny, at face value, which he paid, and would that not be a gift as to the difference of face value and market value? Would be great to find out who he got the tickets from and pull a Michael Moore with a video camera walk up to the dude in public, offer to buy the next game he's not going to for face value, and when he says no, pull the Johnny Football card on him and threaten to wreck his beloved Aggies if it doesn't happen.
I have been courtside a few times. I never paid for the tickets. I got offered the tickets through friends that had connections or actually had the seats. I am not famous. I got offered the tickets because my friend(s) were being nice. Johnny does come from money and his parents are connected. So what if his dad had a friend get him tickets on the court? Should Johnny not take the tickets because it looks bad? Should Johnny feel bad because he comes from money?
It seems to me that some people on these boards thinks that everyone if major college athletics cheats or is shady but PSU.
Couple years ago I met Johnny when I visited a buddy in Kerrville. My friend
followed Johnny in hs and knew his parents. Saw him play baseball and he was a very
good infielder. Several scouts were there to watch him. I sat by his parents and was
told he had an offer for baseball from Texas. Anyway, his parents had tickets for
a San Antonio basketball game. His parents offered us the tics but we had to
pass on them. Next day we called the parents and told them we couldn't use
the tics afterall. Johnny came by the house to get the tics and he went to the
game with a friend. That's when I got to meet him. A very nice lad.
My father in law sits court side at many Mavs games, and he just told me he's been invited back into the locker rooms and suites at every game he's been to. Apparently if you drop top dollar for those tickets, they like to treat you like royalty. Imagine that.
This is a non issue, kid comes from money, I think he's the least candidate to worry about when it comes to impermissible benefits. Also, why are we hating on him and calling him a cheater? He's a great young kid, who provided us with many highlight plays in a lackluster year in college football. Seriously, if it wasn't for him, Teo would be the heisman right now.
Anyways, merry belated Christmas to all and glad that some parents are letting their college age kids enjoy their young lives before they get caught up in the grind f the real world. Enjoy it while you got the time Johnny Football.
I do not disagree with what you said. I was just pointing it out that it is likely an NCAA infraction (I thought it went without saying that most of these are silly).
Please do not tell me you pulled out a Michael Moore reference.
Most of the NCAA rules are silly. If someone was watching a school 24/7, then every school would have issues - PSU included. When I went to PSU, football players used to get free late night meals an McDonald's, be allowed to walk into the G-Man without paying cover or wait in line and get free or discounted haircuts from a local barber. Were all of those NCAA violations? Yes, they were. However, it is hard to police everything and are college athletes going to turn down a free Big Mac or getting into a bar without waiting and paying cover?
OH F Yeah. That would be GREAT!!!
If we were both huge a-holes.
More than just football
People can buy court side tickets, or have them given to them though people they know or business. To me the locker room is way more shady.
Which is more of a possibility:
1) His dad knows someone who got him back to the locker room
2) Or someone who works there saw him at the game, knew who he was and said "come on back to the locker room".
Personally, I think its ridiculous it could even be a violation (as I think the NCAA is ridiculous) - but if it's no 2 that's an impermissible benefit.
If OSU players can't get free tatoos - then Heisman Trophy winners can't get free locker room passes.
Once again, I think its stupid and nothing should happen. But, if something does, usually its a suspension of a few games or so. SEC starts conference play right off the bat, so would be interesting to see if the NCAA did do something.
With regards to OSU and the tatoos, I think what got them in the most trouble was that Tressel knew of the improprieties and didnt do anything with it. If he reports it, Pryor and those guys get suspended for the bowl game, OSU wouldnt of been hit with the sanctions it got, and the world moves on. Tressel would still be at OSU if he forwarded that email.
Agreed on OSU - I just used that as an example that something as silly as a free tatoo is considered an impermissible benefit.
You're right that Tressel brought the boom on OSU and himself by lying to the NCAA.
The kid's family is loaded, his parents easily could have bought the tickets. He got to go into the lockeroom because he is the Heisman trophy winner. Lebron tweeted a picture with the kid and I'm sure the NBA players liked meeting him. There is nothing wrong with what happened.
Any idea what the kids parents do?
"Just incase yall were unaware, the Manziel family is fairly wealthy working in both the Oil and Real estate industries. It is not unlikely that either he has a huge allowance or he bought them with his parents money.
Family owns a company in the Oil and Gas industry.
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