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I am not saying he will run all the time... but some read option.
Bench ran a wing offense in High School for a few years
He had designed run plays in his Virginia action
OB has a man crush on Chip Kelly and built our offense off of his
Though one could argue OB will favor Ferguson or Hack since he has had his best success with pocket passers
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I think it's possible, but doubt we will see it that often due to his lack of starting experience. Biggest part of the play being the ability to read the defenses, which tends to come with experience. If we do, I think it bodes well for our offense, being that it could mean OB has a reason to put that trust in Bench.
This being said, I hope it means he also has faith in our backup, because losing a starting QB to injury is never a good thing...unless you are the Niners.
"PSU a 3 to 4 win team" - New-era, September 2012
OB built our offense off of Chip Kelly? What?
I wouldn't be surprised to see some zone reads with Bench if he starts.
Chip Kelly came to New England to teach them his offense.... they use the speed and attacking style based off of what Chip did.... OB took that offense here...
the only thing OB took from Chip Kelly is how they signal in their plays and get their guys to the line quickly....not his offense.
I think I remember reading that OB isn't a fan of the zone read, but you never know.
I would think that if OB's offense is working fine without it he wont mess with it.
That's like saying that all offenses are the same because they run and pass. There might be similar thinking in trying to create mismatches, open gaps, get kids into space, but you really cannot say it. That's Belichick's offense (though I'm sure there's early predecessors), not Kelly's.
I am not saying it is play for play.... I have understood OB took pieces of that and has used it in his offense. He also was spoken glowingly of CK.
I think he'd put it into a few packages. At the very least, it makes the opponent have to take some practice time and devote it to "WTF do we do if they run read option?"
I hope we see it. Not just for the reason listed above, and not because I think Bench is the kind of QB to do that with, but because it can open up SO much in an offense.
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
I think you can pretty much guarentee it. In his 7 or 8 plays against Virginia, Bench ran a zone read two or three times and successfully. That is a no-brainer piece of the offense that Bwnch has plenty of experience with from his HS days. I'd definitely expect this early in the season and will help provide an additional weapon while Bench continues getting game experiences. I think the running game in general will be huge for the first few games.
OB runs a pure pro offense in both philosophy AND theory.
The philosophy ( offensively) is to be balanced and consistent. to exploit both personnel match-ups and formation weaknesses.
The unwritten but clearly understood "law" is "Protect your Quarterback ". The Pro offenses require a Knowledgeable and gifted athlete as both a leader and a decision maker, to put him at risk is asking for major trouble.
ALL running QB's get killed running against skilled fast defenses...it is just a matter of time.
Do you think OB has a good back up if his starter gets crushed? Or is he very interested in protecting a young and inexperienced guy? OB may, against an over matched defense, run a QB read or draw, but I will bet you will be able to count on one hand the number of planned QB keepers this year.
Not so sure about that. Look at Jim Harbaugh - he runs a pro offense too, but he's also smart enough to take advantage of his QB's skills. He didn't exactly run zone reads with Alex Smith, but with Kaepernick, he actually helped to evolve the notion with the FB/TE reading blocks as well as QB reading the defenders. Good coaches use the skills of their QB's and it's obvious that Bench is a good runner. I think BOB would be limiting himself significantly if he didn't use some read options during the year. Especially given a young QB who may not have the full playbook down - it's a relatively easy play to learn, but not an easy play to defend (as we saw Ohio State trample us with it last year).
Also, I saw an article not that long ago about injuries for running QB's vs. pocket QB's that indicated the injuries to running QB's aren't as high compared to pocket QB's as one would think. With a pocket guy, he's sitting back there all day, and they can get crushed pretty hard. Running/mobile QB's can often avoid hits, run out of bounds, etc.
The attached article seems new to me, so probably not the one I saw, but it's a good one. They said that the "only gameplay variable that explains injuries with any statistical significance is sacks."
This year Colin Kaepernick ran for 56 yards on a single touchdown gallop against the Packers a few weeks ago. But...
I have to disagree with the experience angle. If anything qbs with the talent to run read option get on the field faster. Maybe not at psu under OB, but certainly at osu, mich, nd, san fran, redskins, tebow (broncos) qbs with less experience have seen the field faster imo.
OB prefers a gameplan offense - so I'd guess we'll have some qb runs in the offense. Also could be deadly with multiple TEs on the field.
One thing about OB, he doesn't seem afraid of experimenting.
I don't think there'd be a major change in the offense under bench - but a wrinkle? Why not use the kid's skill set?
There are not that many similarities between the offenses other than clearly Kelley impacted thinking around tempo for many coaches.
I was not clear.... I am not saying we will look like Oregon or Ohio State.... More like Texas A&M light... So maybe 1st and goal Bench puts the ball in the gut of Belton reads the DE and makes a move....
So not saying it will be a full on "spread" just some pieces of it.
BOB uses verbiage, tempo and formation changes that he learned from Kelly. None of that has to do with the read option.
I think we'll definitely see some read option if Bench is the starter. First it will had another dimension to and already extremely diverse and tough offense to stop and secondly, when Bench played in the UVA game we saw some read option.
I think it's really just semantics here, but for the most part we are in agreement. My point was simply that he has to prove he has the ability to actually 'read' the defense, in order to instill the confidence in OB to run it.
If he can't read ONE DE than good luck to him running the rest of the o
Aka why I think bench got a lot of zone read plays against UVA.. very well could be one of the easier reads in the playbook
This post was edited by smlion 16 months ago
IMO, OB is a coach that isn't going to force pegs into the holes of his offense if they don't fit. His goal is to first look at the talent he has and THEN find the best way to get the most out of it. If Bench is the best QB and OB sees an opportunity to use his running ability to create something with some read option in the playbook, I'm sure he'll add it. Other factors like how prepared the back up is, the specific opponent and their weaknesses, and the ability of the other 10 guys to execute their responsibilities on the zone read plays also need to be considered.
If Ferguson wins the starting job and Hack redshirts, does anyone foresee Bench sticking around to be a 3 year backup?
I don't, but I'm sure some here do.
That was part of the reason I was worried about Ferguson, he'll be here for a long time and potentially forces a transfer from Bench. Not that a two year guy wouldn't have, but if Bench doesn't win the job he's gone. JMO though.
EDIT: And he'd probably be a four year backup, if not five (if he would stay as long as he could), due to Hack coming in as well.
This post was edited by Texas Lion 16 months ago
The transfer thing doesn't bother me at all. That's what happens when you are "set" at a position. Not all the good players get to play and the cream rises to the top. The issue is when coaches play favorites and start the less capable player. That's not going to happen under BOB.
I agree that it won't, but it's always nice to have quality backups.
I guess if we can develop Whipple/some-other-walk-on he'll be the 3 guy.
I don't at all, which I think is one of the reasons that they're on Thorson right now.
Fergie wins the battle, Bench takes off under free agency, staff reels in Thorson.
If OB wins 10 games next year does anyone forsee him staying to coach PSU again?
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