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"All of Judge Freeh's interrim recommendations have already been substantially implemented."
I wish they could get all the beeps silent...it's annoying.
For the love of god, please someone ask her how in the hell that consent decree is the only viable option!? Are you effing kidding me!?
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"Have promised Sen Mitchell full cooperation"
Now reading the Agenda:
Steve Dunholm Gen Counsel
Ken Frazier, Freeh report and plan to implement
Richard Edelman, PR advisor
Then open floor for Q & comments in alphabetical order. Keep comments brief and to the point.
If one of these blowhards brings up the 4 year death penalty alternative, please ask the question of how that is possible since the NCAA's own rulebook states that the "death penalty' (ie the Repeat Violator Rule, which we are not) is a two-year maximum proposition.
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Now Gene Marsh:
"NCAA is voluntary membership organization. If you step into their world, subject to 400+ pg. rule book. Article 2.1: President or Chancellor is responsible for admin of all aspects of the athletics program. This is relevant to the points later." Now citing Tarkanian: NCAA not a state actor with respect to due process. Penn State is a member, no opting out of NCAA rules.
Mon Jul 16 and Jul 17 with NCAA counsel: Marsh talked to them. No direct calls with Emmert. They listed a series of penalties. They made it clear that it was "fluid" with lots of strong feelings at NCAA. Made clear that Death Penalty was in play but board was open to alternatives. We asked for consideration for Freeh report, PSU waived atty-client priviledge, and other elements.
Loud and clear by NCAA: majority of board members thought death penalty should be imposed. Multi-year. NCAA thought it was worst case of loss of institutional control they've ever seen. NCAA mentioned "culture problem" at Penn State.
Marsh: NCAA board was open to discussion and that made its way to the consent decree.
We were able to change a tiny bit to the language but not touch the penalties. Consent decree was executed Sunday night and NCAA press conference held on Monday.
"I was told the NCAA was getting reports from Freeh every two weeks. NCAA was not firing up after Freeh report only."
"This was not a negotiation. This was a cram-down."
"In the end, the considerations helped with not getting death penalty."
Well along as the NCAA people were polite, then this is ok. Are you kidding me?!? Does anyone have a spine there?
"A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep"- Glenn Carson
This f*cking ass hat Gene Marsh has the nerve to cite Tarkanian v NCAA as his basis for accepting the sanctions because the NCAA is not a state actor; yet that very own case led to a ruling by the Supreme Court stating that hearsay evidence was no longer admissible in NCAA violation cases.
Since the NCAA didn't conduct their own investigation, and simply took the Freeh report as gospel and the basis for their actions... they are using nothing BUT hearsay in this case.
Really important Pg. 4 consent decree para 2.
"The university sanctions should not only penalize the university, but also to change the culture that allowed this activity to occur."
"This language was focused on culture rather than by-law issues. This breaks the link with precedent. People making arguments about precedent are missing the point. It was a dominant theme from the NCAA was CULTURE. To the extent that people talk about by laws and precedent, they don't get it."
The choice that PSU faced was death penalty or consent decree. It was also going to be death penalty + more.
Summary of Marsh:
NCAA all about changing the CULTURE.
Now Pres Erickson:
Regarding discussions with Emmert: "I received a message to call Emm on Friday July 13. Emm indicated that Univ should begin work to respond to Nov 17 letter. Emm indicated that we would have until Aug to develop response to the letter. He called me back after the weekend and indicated that NCAA were shocked by JS trial and facts in Freeh report. Overwhelming Pres on the board "wanted blood" to shut down football for years." Sanctions would not go through natural path.
"Emmert indicated only chance to avoid death penalty would be consent decree. The only reason PSU might be given this option is because of actions of BOT and admin the past 8+ months, plus commissioning Freeh."
"It was a take it or leave it proposition."
The culture that led Emmert's predecessor Myles Brand to call Penn State "the" model institution for athletics and academics. And we didn't challenge them when they insulted us with this drivel. I'm disgusted by the lack of backbone shown by our leadership.
Rod: "It became very clear from Mark Emmert that the NCAA Executive committee wanted blood and things were moving too fast to allow us to issue a response to their letter."
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